Re: [slim] LMS and PLEX: no internet but wifi

[markiii]

chopinhauer wrote: 
> Thanks, but I don't trust myself to fiddle with registry settings and
> the like, so I will just live with the fact that I can't play PLEX in
> those rare circumstances when the internet is down. (I'll just explain
> to my kid that that's the way it is). At least she can listen to music
> via LMS.

It's a single click box in the web interface



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Re: [slim] LMS and PLEX: no internet but wifi

[Rainer M Krug]

> On 24 Oct 2019, at 02:03, chopinhauer 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> markiii wrote: 
>> Plex authenticates the connection between player and server via please
>> own server. Hence no internet, no Plex.
>> 
>> You need to set connection as insecure allowed on local network
> 
> Thanks, but I don't trust myself to fiddle with registry settings and
> the like,


Please check the links I posted initially - there are NO registry settings you 
have to change. Only settings in the Plex server.


> so I will just live with the fact that I can't play PLEX in
> those rare circumstances when the internet is down. (I'll just explain
> to my kid that that's the way it is). At least she can listen to music
> via LMS.


I installed Emby Media Server as a second backup media server, which also works 
completely without internet.

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Re: [slim] LMS and PLEX: no internet but wifi

[chopinhauer]

markiii wrote: 
> Plex authenticates the connection between player and server via please
> own server. Hence no internet, no Plex.
> 
> You need to set connection as insecure allowed on local network

Thanks, but I don't trust myself to fiddle with registry settings and
the like, so I will just live with the fact that I can't play PLEX in
those rare circumstances when the internet is down. (I'll just explain
to my kid that that's the way it is). At least she can listen to music
via LMS.



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Re: [slim] LMS and PLEX: no internet but wifi

[markiii]

Plex authenticates the connection between player and server via please
own server. Hence no internet, no Plex.

You need to set connection as insecure allowed on local network



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Re: [slim] LMS and PLEX: no internet but wifi

[slartibartfast]

chopinhauer wrote: 
> Thanks for the reply. I wouldn't say my question was pure PLEX as, to
> me, familiar is I am with LMS, I can't see why it needs an internet
> connection to stream locally. And there is no forum for PLEX like there
> is for LMS, to garner reliable info; especially not one constituted by a
> knowledgeable group of tech savies as exist on here.Did you look at the links 
> in the previous post? Workarounds for Plex are
shown there.

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Re: [slim] LMS and PLEX: no internet but wifi

[chopinhauer]

Thanks for the reply. I wouldn't say my question was pure PLEX as, to
me, familiar is I am with LMS, I can't see why it needs an internet
connection to stream locally. And there is no forum for PLEX like there
is for LMS, to garner reliable info; especially not one constituted by a
knowledgeable group of tech savies as exist on here.



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Re: [slim] LMS and PLEX: no internet but wifi

[Rainer M Krug]

> On 22 Oct 2019, at 01:53, chopinhauer 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> This is really more PLEX question than an LMS one.

You are right - a pure Plex question. But anyway, the short answer is Plex 
needs internet connectivity unless setup specifically to not use it.

Here is one link (search for “Plex without internet): 
https://www.howtogeek.com/303282/how-to-use-plex-media-server-without-internet-access/
 

 or 
https://forums.plex.tv/t/use-plex-without-internet-connection-on-home-network/179493
 


Rainer


> 
> I have both running on my local network. Often my internet goes down but
> LMS still streams nicely to my Squeezeboxes throughout the house. This
> is as expected as my music is stored locally. But the same doesn't
> happen with PLEX even though I have my files stored locally as well.
> When the internet goes down it won't stream to my TV via chromecast.
> 
> Can any of the wifi/internet cognoscenti explain why this is so? Why
> does LMS work and PLEX doesn't when the internet goes down even though
> both are streaming from my local computer? Is it simply a PLEX thing?
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Re: [slim] LMS and PLEX

[Nibb31]

I use (and strongly recommend) Rasplex on a Raspberry Pi. There are
instructions for installing Squeezelite on it, which gives you the best
of both worlds. You can even use different audio outputs, like HDMI for
Plex and a DAC for Squeeze.





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Re: [slim] LMS and PLEX

[jfo]

I use a Roku stick plugged into a TV along with Plex, which is running
with LMS on a Fedora based VortexBox. It streams movies wirelessly from
a headless server in the basement.



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Re: [slim] LMS and PLEX

[Apesbrain]

scoobydoob wrote: 
> She says she'd just like a remote to control the movies instead of doing
> it through smartphone.
Roku supports Plex very well and it comes with a remote.  I run Plex
alongside LMS on a Windows PC with no problem.



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Re: [slim] LMS and PLEX

[scoobydoob]

Thanks for the info guys !
I'll take a look at your suggestions. She says she'd just like a remote
to control the movies instead of doing it through smartphone.



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Re: [slim] LMS and PLEX

[bernt]

Chromecast plays nice together with both LMS and Plex. You need a
smartphone to control it.



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Re: [slim] LMS and PLEX

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Hi there,
Your points treated in order ;)
  
- Plex and LMS together is no issue. It's been an "out-of-the-box"
  option on vortexbox for quite a while already
- Raspberry Pi + KODI are quite a bit more performant than either your
  current solution or the alternatives you've been looking at. I'd
  propose looking at either LibreElec (pure KODI) or Max2play
  (combination LMS + KODI + squeezelite)
- Again Raspberry Pi, with either PiCorePlayer or Max2Play, would be a
  more economical and ecological solution compared to running you PC
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