Re: [slim] Synching issues in move from LMS 7.8 to 7.9
And inccreased smartphone and tablett usage can infringe on bandwith :) Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106353 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Synching issues in move from LMS 7.8 to 7.9
Thats the thing with wi-fi it's like the weather , you don't have to do anything for it to change... Something interferes anything from neigbours wi-fi to microvawe ovens to baby monitors . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106353 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Synching issues in move from LMS 7.8 to 7.9
and the culprit was indeed 'wifi issues'. I think one of the Touch players isn't getting the best wifi signal. I had time to play with it today, so I connected it via powerline ethernet, and I had six players successfully streaming FLAC files all day. I still don't really understand why this should be a problem now, when it wasn't before, but as long as its working I'll have time over the christmas break to put a network switch in and hard-wire four or five of the players currently relying on wifi. Thanks very much as always for the replies and suggestions. D SB user since 2000... 3 x Touch; 2 x Boom ; 4 x Classic; 1 x Controller Controlled by iPad using 'Squeezepad' Vortexbox/Nova appliance running LMS version 7.9 donmacn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36036 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106353 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Synching issues in move from LMS 7.8 to 7.9
You say only the server has changed but do you know whether or not your neighbours have installed a new router ? Or have you got any new wireless devices e.g. TV sticks, tablets, phones etc ? It only takes a tiny bit of intereference to cause havoc to synced wireless players. It is highly unlikely to be the new appliance unless perhaps it has a wireless card that isn't properly disabled. Rather than drop back to 7.8 why not try wiring a couple of players temporarily and trying the sync. My money is firmly on it being a wi-fi issue. It almost always is with these symptoms. *Vortexbox LMS 7.9 music on QNAP TS419p via NFS* iThingys/iPeng/Tablets *Living Room* - SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 - > Celestion Ditton F20s - Zone 2 -> Sony TA FE 320 -> Sennheiser RS 130 & B P7 *Office* - RPi -> Sony TA FE320 -> Celestion F10s / SB3 -> Onkyo CRN 755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - SB Touch -> Topping TP21 -> AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - Amazon Fire TV (SB Player) -> Topping TP20 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106353 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Synching issues in move from LMS 7.8 to 7.9
I suggest going back to 7.8 and see what happens. If you still have sync issues then you can at least rule out 7.9 as the culprit. Fizbin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58734 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106353 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Synching issues in move from LMS 7.8 to 7.9
Switch all players to MySB.com (no LMS) temporarily, see if Sync issue remains. If YES then you likely have a network/WiFi issue. If NO then it's likely an LMS/host computer issue. toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106353 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Synching issues in move from LMS 7.8 to 7.9
donmacn wrote: > The upgrade was from 7.8.x to 7.9.0 - but it's a completely new build, > on a commercially supplied new appliance, so there will be a bunch of > plugins enabled that I've never had before. > > Many seem enabled by default. Is there a list of 'hard core' or > essential plugins, then I could disable the rest? > > Ta Not being flippant but they are called plugins :) so none are essential for core functionality, you can disable all of them. Sync issues are nearly always poor wifi related. Any sync'ed player with a Wireless Signal Strength under 50% will likely start to cause an issue, check the information page on LMS and try to get them into the 70% as a minimum. www.spicefly.com - ** Spicefly SugarCube ** - A hassle free acoustic journey through your music library using MusicIP. Plus the finest MusicIP installation guides, enhanced MIP Interface and SpyGlass MIP the Windows Automated MusicIP Headless Installer. cparker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2083 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106353 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Synching issues in move from LMS 7.8 to 7.9
DJanGo wrote: > Hi, > > Please make a screenshoot from your Plugins - delete all your Plugins > and start from scratch. > > "old" plugins where updated all the time when a newer Version is there. > But "old" plugins that are not supported anymore - may causing a busy > system. > These were not deleted when you upgrade from an "very old" system. The upgrade was from 7.8.x to 7.9.0 - but it's a completely new build, on a commercially supplied new appliance, so there will be a bunch of plugins enabled that I've never had before. Many seem enabled by default. Is there a list of 'hard core' or essential plugins, then I could disable the rest? Ta SB user since 2000... 3 x Touch; 2 x Boom ; 4 x Classic; 1 x Controller Controlled by iPad using 'Squeezepad' Vortexbox/Nova appliance running LMS version 7.9 donmacn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36036 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106353 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Synching issues in move from LMS 7.8 to 7.9
Thanks for the replies - apologies for the slow response myself, I've been working away. This "could be a coincidence" certainly. It's just that it follows months and months, if not years of trouble-free synching. The only thing that's changed is the new server and appliance. Obviously that's a major change. I actually don't have any wired players in the set-up. All wireless at the moment, and as I say, they've been wireless for a long time previously. The files are the same - transferred from the old vortexbox by the new appliance supplier - so there should be no change in the amount of data being transferred. So, there are a few constants: The players are the same, and in the same locations, connected to the same network; the router is the same, same location etc. the files (FLAC) are the same. However: LMS is different, and is located on a new 'Nova' appliance. Where I used to be able synch up to 5 players, I now sometimes struggle with 2. I have tried different combinations without getting any improved results. It does seem to me that the only way I'll get to the bottom of this is to throw some money at it (a new VDSL router £150) or a network switch and a bunch of long 10-15 metre network cables... Anything else I could look at before going down that road?? Ta D SB user since 2000... 3 x Touch; 2 x Boom ; 4 x Classic; 1 x Controller Controlled by iPad using 'Squeezepad' Vortexbox/Nova appliance running LMS version 7.9 donmacn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36036 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106353 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Synching issues in move from LMS 7.8 to 7.9
donmacn wrote: > > As always, any advice and assistance gratefully received. Hi, a "upgrade" is sometimes not a good idea. Please make a screenshoot from your Plugins - delete all your Plugins and start from scratch. "old" plugins where updated all the time when a newer Version is there. But "old" plugins that are not supported anymore - may causing a busy system. These were not deleted when you upgrade from an "very old" system. DJanGo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1516 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106353 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Synching issues in move from LMS 7.8 to 7.9
I moved from a VB with 7.8 to another with 7.9 fairly recently. No sync issues. >From what you describe I'd say networking issue somewhere. If you have wireless players synced with wired ones and they display the symptoms I would immediately look at the wireless part of your network first. *Vortexbox LMS 7.9 music on QNAP TS419p via NFS* iThingys/iPeng/Tablets *Living Room* - SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 - > Celestion Ditton F20s - Zone 2 -> Sony TA FE 320 -> Sennheiser RS 130 & B P7 *Office* - RPi -> Sony TA FE320 -> Celestion F10s / SB3 -> Onkyo CRN 755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - SB Touch -> Topping TP21 -> AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - Amazon Fire TV (SB Player) -> Topping TP20 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106353 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Synching issues in move from LMS 7.8 to 7.9
It cold just be a coincidence . It's Michael that really knows what's going into the development, but an important old core feature like sync ? Any direct changes there ? I would be surprised . How ever you could try some things . Try smaller sync groups if one player has problems it wrecks the whole group , try to find if the issue is conected to any particular player . An obvious starter is to sync only the wired players , a wifi or network issue could also cause this . Regarding the sync parameters , well they are there for you to experiment with try one at the time to see if they do something once you found out if one the players is acting up . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106353 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Synching issues in move from LMS 7.8 to 7.9
A small update, for what it might be worth... I ran Radio Paradise (internet radio) for quite a while - there was no problem with that. I then switched to local FLAC files and this is the pattern - plays for about 12-15secs; stops for ca. 20 secs; plays again for 12-15 secs.. etc etc. So, this suggests to me there's a problem somewhere with the system handling the larger FLAC files, as opposed to the Radio Paradise stream. As I've said above, same router, same player locations... It used to handle FLAC files just fine - no trouble at all. Of course it could be that the router has decided to play up and it's a complete coincidence that it's happened at exactly the same time as I've changed my LMS box and server, but I don't believe that's the case. For the 12-15 secs it's playing it's OK! This seems to me like a buffering/synch problem, and I assume (hope) there's a setting somewhere that I need to adjust - but I don't know where to start. I tried looking for any server log files which might help diagnose this - but I can't find anything that looks relevant. Thanks Donald SB user since 2000... 3 x Touch; 2 x Boom ; 4 x Classic; 1 x Controller Controlled by iPad using 'Squeezepad' Vortexbox/Nova appliance running LMS version 7.9 donmacn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36036 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106353 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
