Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2012-02-07 Thread pippin

There are new updates for iPeng and iPeng for iPad on the App store.

Changes are mostly details for the iPad App but iPeng for iPhone is now
no longer compatible with iOS 3.

IPENG FOR IPAD

* No winter hat icon anymore.
* Some stability improvements

IPENG FOR IPHONE

The App is now again on par with iPeng for iPad which means it does
include the improvements that have been made in the iPad App versions
before:

* Improved startup behavior and server detection
* Improved memory usage, should especially improve things on old
devices
* Popup notification when adding tracks to current playlist or
favorites
* iPeng now shows the currently playing track on the lock screen and
allows lock screen control (double-click the home button) if either
local playback is on or the keep connection setting is enabled.

There is one change that applies to both versions:

If you enable the keep connection option in iPeng Settings, iPeng
will now stay active even in the background for one hour. This will
allow you to

* use the volume keys while you are using other Apps or when the device
is locked
* automatically pause a Squeezebox whenever a call comes in even when
iPeng is in the background (Pause on Call) Option in the settings
* Use the lock screen information and control for your Squeezebox, not
only iPeng's player.

It does, however have a few side effects:

* It consumes battery (obviously)
* Every change to the volume you might do in other Apps feeds into your
Squeezebox
* You have to be careful with the AirPlay icon on the lock screen.
Remember that this does NOT work with the stream being sent to your
Squeezebox so iPeng has to play locally to make that work.

Have fun!


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2012-01-07 Thread Chunkywizard

Hi pippin,

I just had a play with sharing what I was listening to Facebook. It
doesn't seem to be working, If I share a track I am playing from my
local library I get no text putted into the Facebook window, just a
sent from iPeng footer. I tried share by email and this is as I would
expect with tack and album details. Do you know why it isn't working?

Screenshots available if you want,

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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2012-01-07 Thread pippin

Chunkywizard;682330 Wrote: 
 
 I just had a play with sharing what I was listening to Facebook. It
 doesn't seem to be working, If I share a track I am playing from my
 local library I get no text inputted into the Facebook window, just a
 sent from iPeng footer. I tried share by email and this is as I would
 expect with track and album details. Do you know why it isn't working?
 

Yes, I know why that is: its facebook.
Facebook doesn't allow any auto-generated content anymore and
automnatically removes it in their standard dialog (which iPeng uses).
You'd have to use OpenGraph now (which I plan to eventually do) but the
you'd have to provide the persistence yourself (for links) which isn't
necessarily easy.

You can still re-add info for the current track by doing a hold in
the entry field for the text so that the iOS Edit-Menu comes up, iPeng
adds a paste current track menu (usually under more ) which will
paste the same info that was originally part of the message, this
counts because now _you_ are entering the data.

If you are posting something containing links (Spotify et al,
Radio,...) the link will still be present, that's still allowed, it's
just the message itself that can no longer be precomposed.

I was considering to use the API directly and ignore facebook's rules
(no idea how they would react) but then the link resolution would no
longer work, that seems to be broken in that standard API, it only
anymore works with OpenGraph.


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-08-07 Thread sadglad

I did the same as it says in the instructions but it took a long time
before the restore previous purchase worked on the iPhone, it works now
though. Thanks.

I like that I now can do almost everything in the iPeng app, it's my
main music controller in this house :)


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-08-07 Thread Siduhe

pippin Wrote: 
 Browser
 * There is now an (internet) browser under Extras that you can use to
 browse and play music from web sites on your Squeezebox. I love that I
 can no read music blogs like Stereogum and listen to the stuff they
 link right away
 * Each page driven by a browser (including facebook and Wikipedia) now
 has it's owm URL entry field and pull to refresh feature (iOs 4 and
 newer only).

Just wanted to post and say this is an amazing new feature - something
I've been wanting for ages and it works brilliantly.  We listen to a
lot of podcasts and this makes it really simple to try new ones out.


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-08-06 Thread pippin

New iPeng updates are now available in the App Store.

One thing is that it fixes an annoying crash on startup that some
people experienced after upgrading to Squeezebox Server 7.6.0. There
was a simple workaround but hey, let's better fix it...

To not make it just a boring bugfix, there are also a few updates to
the functionality:

BROWSER
* There is now an (internet) browser under Extras that you can use to
browse and play music from web sites on your Squeezebox. I love that I
can no read music blogs like Stereogum and listen to the stuff they
link right away :)
* Each page driven by a browser (including facebook and Wikipedia) now
has it's owm URL entry field and pull to refresh feature (iOs 4 and
newer only).

SHARING
* There's now better support for sharing and playing shared links with
Rhapsody and Spotify
* Facebook posts now have an (editable) default I'm listening to
text.

LOOKUP
* Wikipedia lookup now also works for local library entries while
browsing
* There's now also a Google Search for Lyrics under the Lookup menu.
No, you can't use it for the lyrics screen saver in iPeng for iPad,
that would be a bit too much of a stretch.

PLAYBACK
* There's now an Play All entry on some context menus. There are a
few cases where this will play whole menus (e.g. Top 100 tracks in
Triode's Spotify plugin) where you could only play single tracks
before. Unfortunately, Favorites is not one of them.


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-08-06 Thread sadglad

I like the new social features and it was something I missed before, I
share music on FB several times a week. I will certainly use the other
social features too :)

I bought the playback option but have only got it to work on the iPad,
do I have to sync both the iPad and the iPhone to iTunes for it to work
on the iPhone too? This feature will come to it's use when I have to do
the laundry. An almost seamless stream of music, I like that :)


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-08-06 Thread pippin

Umm. What exactly did you do?
You've got both Ipegn for iPad and iPeng for iPhone, I read. Have you
read the instructions in the Enable Playback menu on how you get the
discounted playback?

The playback in the iPad App generally is a different product from
the one in the iPhone App by App Store logic, there really isn't a way
around that other than requiring a registration (and setting up an
authorisation server) or the way I've done this.

Please have a look at this:
http://penguinlovesmusic.de/2011/03/18/new-ipeng-versions-update-playback-change-discount-model/


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-19 Thread soundcheck

Just a comment from my side.

iPeng is still my reference SB control from a functionality
perspective. 
I don't think it has to fear any competition, neither from Squeezepad 
nor from Logitech. Those are just copying that IMO basic feature set,
which is all but user-friendly, especially if your collection 
approaches a certain size.

If you'd ask me. I'd say. No I wouldn't need those social media
functions.
Probably I'm not in that addressed target group though. 
Lot's of programming effort  and money goes into those from my
perspective rather questionable features.

What I'd like to see:

I hope that we see one day a better consistant (dark)  theme on the
iPeng interface. 
I know, that this is ususally said to be a matter of taste. I wouldn't
agree at this point. GUI style mix is not considered the most
successful strategy for applications to make its users feel well. Yep
there's IMO  quite some space for improvement. The mix up of
blue-white, black screen designs and those old style blue framed
pop-ups (taken from 1st generation iPeng I guess), i'd consider all but
consistant. 
I assume you had a chance to look at SqueeezPad, it looks really good
and consistant - it just lacks iPeng functionalities. ;) I keep the
fingers crossed that you gonna do something about it.

Obviously a lot of time goes into programming of new iPeng features,
which do not relate to playback and database management anymore. That I
consider a pity.
Bottom line. I don't think those social media things will keep you in
the lead. The wikipedia thing is not bad. Still, fighting the
Googles/browsers etc. won't work out on the long run I guess.

I find myself using very often the browser to enter the html-based 
setup dialog of the SB server. 
Would be great if I could do all that from iPeng. That's what I also
consider very useful. I could change plugin parameter settings and
advanced
settings, asf from inside iPeng. No need to switch apps.

Off-topic wish:
I'd find it nice if the push2play function of iPeng as it is done on
the iPhone would also be made available on the iPad. By pushing the
album art from the collection-overview layer to start immediate
playback, should also work on the iPad - it could be introduced as  a
new feature to be activated under settings. (Shouldn't be such a big
deal)  



Anyhow. Keep up the good work. I recommended your App more than once
and keep doing it. ;)

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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-19 Thread pippin

soundcheck;641551 Wrote: 
 Just a comment from my side.
 
Thanks :)
 
 If you'd ask me. I'd say. No I wouldn't need those social media
 functions.
 Probably I'm not in that addressed target group though. 
 Lot's of programming effort  and money goes into those from my
 perspective rather questionable features.
 
Well, that kind of depends on the user, doesn't it?
I wanted it a lot for the reasons I stated and on facebook I can see
that it's indeed being used.
 
 What I'd like to see:
 
 I hope that we see one day a better consistant (dark)  theme on the
 iPeng interface.
 
Consistent with what?
Right now it's consistent with Apple's Apps and Apple's interface
guidelines.

Dark background may look cooler but it's really bad for the eyes if you
have small print.
That said: it's coming, I have to develop a dark interface now for the
upcoming iPeng redesign and will probably make that an option.
  
 I know, that this is ususally said to be a matter of taste. I wouldn't
 agree at this point. GUI style mix is not considered to be the most
 successful strategy for applications to make its users feel well. 
 Yep - there's IMO  quite some space for improvement. The mix-up of
 blue-white  black screen designs and those old style blue framed
 pop-ups (taken from 1st generation iPeng I guess), i'd consider all but
 consistant.
 
With blue pop-ups I assume you mean the context menus?
That's actually not old but the newest addition to the interface. The
idea is to show the difference between a normal menu and a context menu
because they are functionally different.
It's an important distinction because in a context menu you can destroy
a playlist with a single tap, like in an album menu, which is why
these are distinct, too.

The dark cs. light scheme is the same one Apple uses:dark means
NowPlaying functionality, light means library. The only exception is
Settings-Player Settings if you use that.
 
 I assume you had a chance to look at SqueeezPad, it looks really good
 and consistant - it just lacks iPeng functionalities. ;) I keep the
 fingers crossed that you gonna do something about it.
 
Well, SqueezePad allows itself the luxury of wasting 50% of the screen
for visual effects only, it's content area is just a little bit bigger
that iPeng for iPhone's. You can of course do that on iPad (and I
always said I'm not happy with iPeng for iPad's overall layout) but you
can't do it on iPhone.
It's easy to make a playlist look the same way as a stored playlist if
they are always in different places, you can't mix them up, on a small
device you need to create visual clues.
Also, regarding the functionality: One of the reasons SqueezePad has a
somewhat cleaner design than iPeng is that bluegaspode refuses to add
functionality at the price of simplicity.
 
 Obviously a lot of time goes into programming of new iPeng features,
 which do not relate to playback and media-/database management anymore.
 That I consider a pity.
 
Wikipedia was something like a 1h hack, really not a lot.
Facebook and Twitter for me are absolutely playback and media
management features because it's for me a way to be finally able to
play music I could not play on my Squeezebox at all so far - a growing
pain (see my comment above).

On library management the situation is simple: I can't do anything more
before Squeezebox Server 7.6 is out, the performance for a significant
part of iPeng's user base would simply suffer too much. Even now, the
things iPeng does in addition to standard Squeezeplay hurt performance
and I'm frequently getting complaints to that respect, it's simply not
an option.

 
 Bottom line. I don't think those social media things will keep you in
 the lead. The wikipedia idea is not bad. Still, fighting the
 Googles/browsers and other spezialized apps etc. IMO won't work 
 out on the long run.
 
That would be a pity because it would mean that the Squeezebox will die
out because that will be where the music will come from in the long
run.
 
 Via a web-browser you get to artist homepages, Amazon reviews and asf.
 in a very flexible way.
 
Yes. But without iPeng you can't actually PLAY that music. It's still
an issue for me because two of the most frequently used services among
my friends (rd.io and SoundCloud) are not supported at all by the
Squeezebox.
 
 I do and will keep doing my research-while-listening with my bowsers. 
 
Maybe we are different, but I'm not prepared to try to find out for
half an hour how I can actually play that link somebody sends me, it
has to be faster and if faster means I have to use something else than
the Squeezebox this is going to be an issue for my Squeezebox.
I've caught myself playing music through AppleTV!
 
 Idea: I find myself using very often the browser to enter the
 html-based setup dialog of the SB server. 
 Would be great if I could do all that from iPeng. That's what I also
 consider very useful. I could change plugin parameter settings and
 advanced
 settings, asf from inside iPeng. No need 

Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-19 Thread soundcheck

No need to defend anything. ;)

I guess I spreaded my message. I don't see any arguments from your side
which would change my mind.

Good to see that you're working on a GUI redesign. 

On an iPad you don't want to see a boring blue-white PC like surface.
You want to see a cool  shiny control panel. A mix of squeezepad and
ipeng plus a little more coolness or call it innovative control
functions.


P.S: The tap on album works on the iPhone extremely well for me. 
I don't see any reason not having it as configurable option on the
iPad.
I'd really prefer a kind of consistent usability of both programs. (as
a matter of fact I got both in use)  


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-19 Thread pippin

soundcheck;641592 Wrote: 
 
 On an iPad you don't want to see a boring blue-white PC like surface.
 You want to see a cool  shiny control panel. A mix of squeezepad and
 ipeng plus a little more coolness or call it innovative control
 functions.
 
Ah. OK. Wasn't aware that you were referring to iPad. My comments
mainly apply to iPhone. iPad will get a redesign, too, but I'm not yet
sure about the scheme, it's actually very, very difficult to do some of
the things iPeng for iPad now does with a dark background.
 
 P.S: The tap on album works on the iPhone extremely well for me. 
 I don't see any reason not having it as configurable option on the
 iPad.
 
Well, as I said: we tried it and almost everybody got confused and the
decision to remove it was unambiguous. In the iPhone App it's
consistent right now, in the iPad one it was not.
 
 I'd really prefer a kind of consistent usability of both programs. (as
 a matter of fact I got both in use)  
 

But how do you differentiate the two then? I was close to doing a
simple mode for the iPhone version but as a matter of fact that would
have pretty much looked like the Logitech App so what's the sense in it?


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-19 Thread 05mattjax

Following update the artists no longer appear on the artists tab.h I
have to search via albums only! Also I cant one touch press for a song
to play anymore. I have to press and hold it. Then choose what I want
to do. If I do one touch the music stops and the playlist clears now -
I dont like that. Also none of the other songs in the album flow
through anymore. I loved these features, can I have them back please?


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-19 Thread pippin

05mattjax;641594 Wrote: 
 Following update the artists no longer appear on the artists tab.h I
 have to search via albums only! Also I cant one touch press for a song
 to play anymore. I have to press and hold it. Then choose what I want
 to do. If I do one touch the music stops and the playlist clears now -
 I dont like that. Also none of the other songs in the album flow
 through anymore. I loved these features, can I have them back please?

There's nothing really changed WRT that UNLESS you use an old build of
Squeezebox Server 7.6 beta.In this case, please update your server SW.

Otherwise, please try Settings-iPeng Settings-Flush Cache and
please restart iPeng after force-quitting it through the task bar.


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-19 Thread 05mattjax

pippin;641602 Wrote: 
 There's nothing really changed WRT that UNLESS you use an old build of
 Squeezebox Server 7.6 beta.In this case, please update your server SW.
 
 Otherwise, please try Settings-iPeng Settings-Flush Cache and
 please restart iPeng after force-quitting it through the task bar.

Thanks. I updated SBS at the sametime as iPeng, to the latest version
from the logitech website, on my Netgear ReadyNas Duo. It's 7.5.5.

Will try the reset you suggest and report back. I have definitely
flushed it since but not force quit it.


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-19 Thread pippin

05mattjax;641606 Wrote: 
 Thanks. I updated SBS at the sametime as iPeng, to the latest version
 from the logitech website, on my Netgear ReadyNas Duo. It's 7.5.5.
 
 Will try the reset you suggest and report back. I have definitely
 flushed it since but not force quit it.

Also, please check whether everything works as expected through the web
interface, sounds like some people are having issues here with 7.5.5.


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-19 Thread 05mattjax

pippin;641611 Wrote: 
 Also, please check whether everything works as expected through the web
 interface, sounds like some people are having issues here with 7.5.5.

Done as you suggested and the artists appear for about a second then
all disappear, strange. Done it a few times now. More concerned about
the playback feature. Hopefully its not just me. I will check web
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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-19 Thread 05mattjax

05mattjax;641629 Wrote: 
 Done as you suggested and the artists appear for about a second then all
 disappear, strange. Done it a few times now. More concerned about the
 playback feature. Hopefully its not just me. I will check web
 interface.

Web interface not working correctly either. same problem with artists.
I have rescanned the whole music library, waiting results


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-18 Thread maggior

I love the Wikipedia integration - it works really well! I use Wikipedia
a lot to look up discographies and stuff - now I don't have to go out to
te web browser to do it!  Nicely done!


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-18 Thread jimzak

I have to admit I didn't read this entire thread.

I have the latest version of iPeng for iPad and I can't find any of the
new social features and your post and website provide no clues.

I'm sure this stuff is obvious but...please help.

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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-18 Thread pippin

jimzak;641509 Wrote: 
 
 I have the latest version of iPeng for iPad and I can't find any of the
 new social features and your post and website provide no clues.
 

Um..
 
 E-Mail sharing will work immediately but you can also use Twitter or
 Facebook. To do that, iPeng adds a new category to the App Gallery
 menu: iPeng Apps. Here you can enable iPeng’s own Facebook and Twitter
 features that allow you to tweet and post as well as read timelines and
 walls.
 

If you want to use Twitter or Facebook you have to enable it in the
App Gallery where SBS also puts it (yes, if you still use 7.3 you
can't use that).

The Share menu and the Wiki menu are in the TrackInfo context menu,
that is they show up in context menus for tracks in albums (also of
course, for services like Spotify) for the current track (on
NowPlaying) and for any other track in the current playlist.


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-17 Thread MeSue

pippin;641138 Wrote: 
 So it went back to iPeng automatically (that's what's needed for the
 authorization to actually work). Which iOS is this? I need to look into
 it, but I believe the change I applied here should fix that, too (it
 will not switch to Safari but present a login popup instead).

Yes, it went back to iPeng. iOS 4.2.2 (w/ jailbreak).


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-16 Thread pippin

MeSue;641019 Wrote: 
 Pippin,
 
 I can't get the Share on Facebook option working on my iPod touch. I
 authorized both Fb and Twitter on my iPad first with iPeng HD, and then
 I did so on my iPod with iPeng. For Facebook, it just takes me to a
 message that says iPeng has already been authorized, but then it does
 not show Facebook as a share option in the menu.

Did you press the Ok link at the bottom of that message?
You don't happen to have a current beta on that device (I remember they
dont work for you anymore?)

What's the state it shows in the App Gallery setting?

I did something wrong which means it still takes you to Safari for the
authorization but it should still work...


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-16 Thread pippin

Flashbee;641017 Wrote: 
  iPeng now shows an AirPlay control for the iPeng Player if there is an
 AirPlay device on the network, so you don#146;t have to use the task
 bar four audio routing
 
 I have Apple TV (latest version) which doesn't appear to be showing on
 ipeng as described in the update. Has anyone else got this to work?

I think I need to re-phrase that description.
iPeng does not allow using AirPlay devices as players like a
Squeezebox, that would require an AirPlay key which Apple is not giving
away.
What this feature does is it adds a control for the AirPlay route to
the iPeng Player if you use iPeng's playback. In this case you can use
the normal AirPlay from the iThingy to your AirPlay device. This did
work before but you had to use the task bar control now there is one in
the player control.


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-16 Thread albertone74

Hi Pippin,
Thanks for the great update...good job as usual;)
I am running iPeng on all my apple devices and I must admit that iPeng
on my iPad is simply amazing!I couldn't live without it anymore ;)
Would you please explain me how to stream youtube songs through iPeng?
I have just installed the Youtube plugin on the Squeezebox server.
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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-16 Thread pippin

Well, then there will be a YouTube search option in the Global Search
and a browse feature under Radios (SBS  7.6) or My Apps (SBS 7.6).
If you have a specific YouTube link you can paste it either into the
plugin or into the Tune In URL.
If somebody sends you a link through Facebook or Twitter, it will work
if you use iPeng's facebook or Twitter Apps.


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-16 Thread albertone74

Hi Pippin,
thanks gor getting back to me.
I am sure I am doing something wrong as:

1)I can't find the YouTube search option in the Global Search. Where is
it?;)
2)How can I paste a YouTube link into the plugin?
3)I pasted a YouTube link into the Tune In URL but it didn't work.

I would appreciate your kind help Pippin!

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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-16 Thread albertone74

Hi Pippin,
Thanks a restart did the trick!;)

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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-16 Thread ajkidle

When I share a Rhapsody track on Facebook, shouldn't it also be posting
the link to that track?  It's not.  It's just a plain text post.  I'm I
misunderstanding how this is supposed to work, or is something not
working properly?


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-16 Thread MeSue

pippin;641053 Wrote: 
 Did you press the Ok link at the bottom of that message?
 You don't happen to have a current beta on that device (I remember they
 dont work for you anymore?)
 
 What's the state it shows in the App Gallery setting?
 
 I did something wrong which means it still takes you to Safari for the
 authorization but it should still work...

It says Facebook disabled, and I click the authorize button and it
shows the message about already authorized, I press okay, and go back
to iPeng and it still shows disabled. I can go round and round doing
that and it never changes. 

It's not a beta, and it authorized fine on my iPad.


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-16 Thread pippin

ajkidle;641112 Wrote: 
 When I share a Rhapsody track on Facebook, shouldn't it also be posting
 the link to that track?  It's not.  It's just a plain text post.  I'm I
 misunderstanding how this is supposed to work, or is something not
 working properly?

I'll have to look that up. Rhapsody obviously did a total overhaul of
their API this week (which is why you need the Logitech updates to
still use it), maybe the new URLs are not recognized by iPeng anymore


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-16 Thread pippin

MeSue;641115 Wrote: 
 It says Facebook disabled, and I click the authorize button and it shows
 the message about already authorized, I press okay, and go back to iPeng
 and it still shows disabled. I can go round and round doing that and it
 never changes. 
 
 It's not a beta, and it authorized fine on my iPad.

So it went back to iPeng automatically (that's what's needed for the
authorization to actually work). Which iOS is this? I need to look into
it, but I believe the change I applied here should fix that, too (it
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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-15 Thread Flashbee

 iPeng now shows an AirPlay control for the iPeng Player if there is an
AirPlay device on the network, so you don’t have to use the task bar
four audio routing

I have Apple TV (latest version) which doesn't appear to be showing on
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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-15 Thread MeSue

Pippin,

I can't get the Share on Facebook option working on my iPod touch. I
authorized both Fb and Twitter on my iPad first with iPeng HD, and then
I did so on my iPod with iPeng. For Facebook, it just takes me to a
message that says iPeng has already been authorized, but then it does
not show Facebook as a share option in the menu.


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-14 Thread JonWill

Ahhh... It's always good to have your sanity confirmed. Even if it is in
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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-14 Thread Scidd0w

Got the iPhone update this morning in the dutch appstore.
Thnx again pippin  Coolio!


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-14 Thread MeSue

pippin;640448 Wrote: 
 
 
 The big thing is being able to play content from a link and to detect
 links in web sites...

Okay, this has me stumped... how do we play content from links through
iPeng? Where do we go to copy and paste the URLs?


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-14 Thread MeSue

)p(;640701 Wrote: 
 I think currently you can only do this from the embedded wiki browser.
 From there search for google, click the google.com link and from there
 you can explore links all over the web ;) If you find a valid link
 click on it and ipeng will produce a popup that gives you the ability
 to share, play or save the link to favorites.

Okay, thanks. Some of the comments in this thread made it sound like
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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-14 Thread pippin

MeSue;640703 Wrote: 
 Okay, thanks. Some of the comments in this thread made it sound like
 there was an URL field I should be able to find somewhere.

There is. It's the one in Radios. It has all the functionality the
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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-14 Thread erland

)p(;640701 Wrote: 
 I think currently you can only do this from the embedded wiki browser.
 From there search for google, click the google.com link and from there
 you can explore links all over the web ;) If you find a valid link
 click on it and ipeng will produce a popup that gives you the ability
 to share, play or save the link to favorites.
 
When I tried, I just opened Safari and when I click on a link like this
one it will open iPeng and start playing the track (note that it begins
with ipeng instead of http):
ipeng://open.spotify.com/track/3NdvjzDM2ZVQDjaGzBtg6C

But if you like it to work with standard http links, I think you need
to use the above mentioned approach, at least I haven't found anything
better:
http://open.spotify.com/track/3NdvjzDM2ZVQDjaGzBtg6C
(This link will just open the Spotify app on my iPad)

I think it also works to use the Radios/Tune in URL menu and enter a
url like:
spotify:track:3NdvjzDM2ZVQDjaGzBtg6C


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-14 Thread pippin

The open.spotify link will work in Tune In, too, it's not the same tune
in as in the web interface (anymore).


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-14 Thread MeSue

Pippin, since iPeng seems to have an embedded browser now, why not
include an address field so we can browse to wherever  we want without
leaving iPeng? Wouldn't that then be a way to use playlist sharing
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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-14 Thread pippin

Yea, I plan to do that (could you file a ticket anyway?). It's just UI
again which means lots of work and I did not want to delay the release.


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-14 Thread erland

MeSue;640768 Wrote: 
 Pippin, since iPeng seems to have an embedded browser now, why not
 include an address field so we can browse to wherever  we want without
 leaving iPeng? Wouldn't that then be a way to use playlist sharing
 sites, etc? (at least in the iPad version.)
 
If we get this, it would also be nice to be able to setup favorite
sites so you easily can go back to your favorite playlist site later.
If that's hard, maybe it would be possible to just make it easy to go
to a specific wiki page where we all outside iPeng could add links to
our favorite playlist sites to make it easy to reach them from inside
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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-13 Thread pippin

No, the Spotify URL entry field is a menu created by the plugin that has
some Logic behind it. In this case I'd need a way to tell the plugin to
play an album or I need to retrieve the album content. If the plugin
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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-13 Thread Hofstede

Am I the only one who doesn't see any use for all that Facebook and
Twitter functionality?
I bought the program as a remote control for the Squeezeboxes I own.
All these extra functions only make the program more complicated and
more difficult to use.
It would be nice to have a system setting to hide all those social
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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-13 Thread erland

pippin;640383 Wrote: 
 No, the Spotify URL entry field is a menu created by the plugin that has
 some Logic behind it. In this case I'd need a way to tell the plugin to
 play an album or I need to retrieve the album content. If the plugin
 can't do it I'll eventually do it anyway :)
 
I suspect Logitech has other priorities at the moment, so if you like
something that works with MySB it's probably going to have to be built
into iPeng. Another advantage of having it in iPeng would be that you
could theoretically display the album and artist name before the user
has hit play and not just show a spotify url.

Which solution would you prefer ? a third party plugin in SBS or built
into iPeng ?

Are there similar problems with other services so you need to build
something into iPeng anyway to make it work similar for all services ?
Or is this limitation specific to Spotify ?


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-13 Thread erland

pippin;640130 Wrote: 
 
 iPeng now has a new Context Menu item for the current track and the
 tracks in the current playlist. 
 
Is there a reason you don't offer the Share this... item in context
menus for tracks in the browse menus ?


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-13 Thread kidstypike

hofstede;640392 Wrote: 
 am i the only one who doesn't see any use for all that facebook and
 twitter functionality?
 I bought the program as a remote control for the squeezeboxes i own.
 All these extra functions only make the program more complicated and
 more difficult to use.
 It would be nice to have a system setting to hide all those social
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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-13 Thread Hofstede

Personally I removed all things Facebook / Twitter from my Squeezebox
system long ago. I just don't like things I am not using at all
cluttering up my system.
If I want to use Facebook or Twitter there are a lot of options that
work better than the Squeezebox eco-system. Now iPeng forces this
functionality back into my music system.

Guess for me it means I will use SqueezePad more often than iPeng. I
hope Bluegaspode will not get the idea he needs to integrate this
functionality in his program too


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-13 Thread erland

pippin;640130 Wrote: 
 
 By default it will send the title, artist and album (you can of course
 edit that) and – most importantly – whenever a link is available that
 can be played (as is the case for services like Spotify, Rhapsody,
 YouTube or radio stations) that link will be sent, too. So your friends
 don’t just know, what you are listening to, they can just click the link
 and listen to it, too.
 
Do you know if Rhapsody has some common identity with Spotify ?
I know Spotify has some kind of support for musicbrainz id do you know
if this or something similar also is supported by Rhapsody ?

The reason is that since I have Spotify but not Rhapsody, it would be
great to be able to immediately play a Rhapsody recommendation in
Spotify. 

Also, when I post a text based link to Twitter, like Some song - Some
artist, it would be great to be able to somehow be able to use that
text when triggering a search towards Spotify. So if someone has posted
a song as text I can easily pick it up in iPeng and search for it in
Spotify and start to play it.

And when I share something in my local library to Twitter, it would be
great to have a try to find Spotify link option which I could select
and it would then try to find the corresponding track in Spotify and
include that in the Twitter post. This could possibly be used also for
the above Spotify vs Rhapsody problem, making it possible to search for
the Rhapsody track in Spotify Metadata API and publish both a Spotify
and Rhapsody link to Twitter.

Something that might also be of interest is to be able to share albums
and not just individual songs.

Finally, it would feel interesting to get some kind of integration to
one of these playlist sharing sites. There are a number of them but I'm
not sure which is most commonly used as it so far has been too
complicated to share playlists and listen to playlists that has been
shared through the Squeezebox.


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-13 Thread local.bin

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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-13 Thread bluegaspode

Hofstede;640404 Wrote: 
 Guess for me it means I will use SqueezePad more often than iPeng. I
 hope Bluegaspode will not get the idea he needs to integrate this
 functionality in his program too

Well - I'm known to not just copy iPeng :)
Though I have to admit that one feature pippin integrated in this
version was on my roadmap for v1.9 as well (bit different und much
better of course)

I actually neither have a Twitter nor Facebook account (ok - I did
create a Facebook test account some time ago to fix a bug in SqueezePad
with the handling of the Facebook-App - and I used it just yesterday
again to see what pippin is doing ...).

Having said that: regardless what you think about it: having the name
'iPeng' on Facebook and Twitter regularly by those who use it, is a
huge marketing gain. It raises awareness to those that don't know it
much better than anything else.

So if you don't want to see this in SqueezePad some time in the future
think about how to promote your favourite product by other means ;) 
Friends, blog posts, posts on other forums, App Store comments, praises
to the developer ... be creative!


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-13 Thread erland

Hofstede;640404 Wrote: 
 Personally I removed all things Facebook / Twitter from my Squeezebox
 system long ago. I just don't like things I am not using at all
 cluttering up my system.
 If I want to use Facebook or Twitter there are a lot of options that
 work better than the Squeezebox eco-system. Now iPeng forces this
 functionality back into my music system.
 
Yes but please note that iPeng is doing it for different reasons than
Logitech, Logitech did it mainly to just get the logo in the marketing
material while iPeng is using it to make it easier for us to recommend
music to each other. I can agree that so far it might not seem much
different but believe me it will if this progresses as I hope.

I've big problems with Facebook/Twitter functionality creeping into the
system for marketing reasons, exactly as you've done I've removed the
ones made by Logitech from my system since they don't offer anything
music related to me. However, when the focus is on the music it's a lot
more interesting. 

But I agree that there has to be more to make it really usable, I've
barely got any music recommendations through mail, Twitter and Facebook
so far, it happens a bit more often through Skype/MSN/ICQ/Google Talk
and through the Music section of this and other forums, but in most
cases it happens when discussing with friends and my main problem is
that often I've forgotten the recommendation before I get back home to
the Squeezebox. So some kind of functionality to make it easier to
remember recommendations would be great. 

Something else that really would make the difference to me would be
some integration with a playlist sharing service. But besides simple
playlist sharing it also needs to have the possibility to browse and
search to find what you are interested in.


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-13 Thread epoch1970

 local.bin;640407



And that's 3 hits for the +1 button ;)

Actually I am sure I will find the share by email feature useful on
occasion. I feel the FB option less useful, more involved, and I plan
on dropping my little presence on FB down to 0 some time in the
future.

So an iPeng preference page like: 
Social/on-off
- FB on/off 
- email on/off
- …
would be just fine imho.

However I do not agree iPeng forces you using the stuff even in the
current situation.


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-13 Thread erland

bluegaspode;640410 Wrote: 
 So if you don't want to see this in SqueezePad some time in the future
 think about how to promote your favourite product by other means ;) 
 
You know, even my local grocery store have a Like us on Facebook sign
outside their store (no I'm not kidding). Maybe a Like SqueezePad on
Facebook would be something to think about ?


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-13 Thread pippin

Hofstede;640392 Wrote: 
 Am I the only one who doesn't see any use for all that Facebook and
 Twitter functionality?
 I bought the program as a remote control for the Squeezeboxes I own.
 All these extra functions only make the program more complicated and
 more difficult to use.
 It would be nice to have a system setting to hide all those social
 functions.

You don't need to do anything. All but the Share... link are disabled
by default.

Hofstede;640404 Wrote: 
 Personally I removed all things Facebook / Twitter from my Squeezebox
 system long ago. I just don't like things I am not using at all
 cluttering up my system.
 If I want to use Facebook or Twitter there are a lot of options that
 work better than the Squeezebox eco-system. Now iPeng forces this
 functionality back into my music system.
 
 Guess for me it means I will use SqueezePad more often than iPeng. I
 hope Bluegaspode will not get the idea he needs to integrate this
 functionality in his program too

How does it force you to use it?
Also, this is not about using iPeng as a general facebook or twitter
client, there is no sense in that.

But here are two thoughts from my side:

1. Please be honest: if you want just bare-to-the-bones Squeezebox
Remote capabilities with no additional bells ans whistles, especially
on iPhone, you would not buy iPeng anymore, you would use the free
Logitech App. While it can be a nuisance on some Android devices and
doesn't make good use of the iPad screen it works fine on an iPhone 4.
The fact that the iPad version of this iPeng release came first has
nothing to do with iPad/iPhone but only with the fact that after
submitting I found a bug that made it crash on pre-3.2 versions of iOS
which doesn't affect the iPad.

2. I felt a personal need for this functionality because I found I'm
having two music collections again: one consisting of links of stuff
friends recommended to me and then the old stuff in my library. I found
that the former made a significant portion of my listening and there was
_NO WAY_ I could listen to this stuff on my Squeezebox.
This problem had a number of aspects:
* YouTube, SoundCloud and rd.io links didn't work. Fortunately Triode
fixed this for YouTube. This aspect maybe made like 50% of the
problem.
* But the other 50% of the problem were just as bad: There was
absolutely no way to play recommendation links from others on a
Squeezebox (with the exception of internal Spotify links which nobody
uses). Even if you use Spotify on your SB, if somebody sends you one of
these links e.g. Spotify creates (open.spotify.com), you can't play it
on a Squeezebox. You can't go and paste it into the Web Interface, it
doesn't work. What you have to do is this: you have to play the link on
a Computer or phone and find out what it is, then you SEARCH for this
again using one of your remotes and then you play it.
I don't know about you, but this dis-qualifies it for me and what this
meant is that, like my CD player, my Squeezebox started to be a system
for legacy music. This essentially would mean that sooner or later I
would have removed it from my home and replaced it with something that
DOES play my new music, too, with other words an iWhatever or
AirWhatever thingy.
I wasn't prepared to let that happen without even trying to fight it.

Now, with iPeng, even if you don't use Twitter or Facebook or iPeng's
mail links, you can at least copypaste a link into iPeng's URL:...
menu item and play it.

So if you don't want to use it, hey, that's absolutely OK.
I fully understand if getting links from others or browsing web sites
containing links to learn about new music isn't among the ways how you
discover new music or you are happy with your existing music, this
probably has no use for you. But please accept that it might do so for
others.

I know that the functionality at it's current state is not perfect,
there are a lot of things I'd like to add: more flexible browsing, so
that you can use e.g. music blogs as well, more flexible sharing to
allow for sharing from a browse menu or for Albums/Playlists. Maybe
even having a sharing service (not for the music, just for the links)
and to include ways to share stuff from your own library (again: I'm
not talking about illegal/not illegal music sharing, just making it
accessible).
But features like that have to evolve, it's to complex to get it right
the first time so I wanted to get it out and collect feedback, it was
hard enough to get the stuff behind the scenes going for what is there
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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-13 Thread Hofstede

Pippin,

At the time I bought iPeng the Logitech app was not available yet. And
your program beats the functionality of the Logitech app by miles.
Don't get me wrong, I really like it.
The term force is a bit strong I know but I could not find a better
word for it. I just don't like the way every program nowadays links to
sites like Facebook and Twitter and I prefer not to use it. I am
worried about my privacy.
I understand your reasoning and your need for it. 
The only thing I ask for is an easy way to hide all references to
Facebook and Twitter functionality. I am a programmer and I know it
maybe problematic to do so but asking never hurts anyone.

You can guess what my reaction was when Steve Jobs announced that IOS 5
will have more built in integration with Facebook and Twitter . :)

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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-13 Thread pippin

Hofstede;640446 Wrote: 
 The only thing I ask for is an easy way to hide all references to
 Facebook and Twitter functionality. I am a programmer and I know it
 maybe problematic to do so but asking never hurts anyone.
 
By default, there is only a single place where Facebook and Twitter
functionality is mentioned and that is in the App Gallery. And this is
a menu you usually don't use at all. It's simply the place where I put
the setting you are asking for because it's also where Logitech puts it
for their Apps.
 
 You can guess what my reaction was when Steve Jobs announced that IOS 5
 will have more built in integration with Facebook and Twitter . :)
 
Only Twitter. And it makes things like this simply a bit easier.

But don't get it wrong: the big thing about this update, from a
technical standpoint is not the Twitter and Facebook clients. That's
some standard code for Twitter and an authorization screen and some
icons for facebook.

The big thing is being able to play content from a link and to detect
links in web sites (and Squeezebox content, with some limitations that
lie in their implementation all of this even works with Logitech's
facebook App), to be able to play these links, and to be able to
create links others can play to share stuff with them. Facebook and
Twitter (and E-Mail) are just ways to get the communication into iPeng
so you don't have to use cut and paste for links. Note to self: maybe
I should add a play from clipboard menu


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-13 Thread Hofstede

I think that is the big difference between us. You want a tool to share
music with friends and easily find music on the web, I only want a
program to control my music system. I am not interested in what music
my friends play. I know they all have a bad taste in music anyway ;)
As long as the remote contral part of the program works it is Ok with
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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-13 Thread Scidd0w

I do share music from time to time with my friends. Most of them have
good music taste and thats probably why we got friends anyway. ;)
I also had the difficulties from time to time with sharing spotify
links etc. I have no facebook or twitter account but I really like
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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-13 Thread JonWill

I'd love to join this debate, but iPeng 1.3.4 does not appear in my
AppStore for upgrade... Has anyone else in the UK had this update? Or
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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-13 Thread pippin

It wasn't out, yet, only the iPad version was. Some hiccup with old iOS
versions and then some misunderstanding about the term Squeezebox
Server 7.6 beta in the review process.

All resolved now so it should be or become available shortly.


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-13 Thread MeSue

pippin;640448 Wrote: 
  Note to self: maybe I should add a play from clipboard menu

Thanks for these features! I have not used them yet, but I know I will.
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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-12 Thread pippin

danull;640144 Wrote: 
 Somebody is bound to ask so might as well be me... Any plans to bring
 this to Google+ ?

Well, certainly. The update was already waiting at Apple's when Google+
came around so no chance to look into it for this but it's certainly a
logical step.
I'll have to see whether there is already any API information for
Google+. as long as there's some mobile web page and some way to
register a client it should be fairly easy because all of this also
works with web sites so there would not be too much to develop
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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-12 Thread pippin

)p(;640151 Wrote: 
 I had my iPad set to Dutch. When looking up artist info on Wikipedia it
 used the Dutch version and not the English one. So it won't find most.
 Setting the iPad to English made it using the English one. Maybe you
 can make an option to select the database to use independent of the
 language the iPad is set to.
 
 What a great update! Is it now also possible to play spotify links on
 websites through ipeng?

Hm, that's a candidate for configuration hell
The problem is that in some languages (German, French, Italian), I'd
definitely not want to send people off to an English site by default so
I decided to use the device's language setting to identify the Wikipedia
site.

Could you add a ticket for that configuration setting? I didn't
consider it, yet because it's probably more work than the whole
Wikipedia feature but I see the point about smaller libraries.

I imagine all the people who want to select their main language
manually will also show up again and the problem is that THIS is much,
much more work...


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-12 Thread pippin

I think I'll just do an use English Wiki option which is probably what
99% of the people would be looking for in a configuration option.

On the Spotify albums: yes, I plan to add that but it essentially means
I have to re-implement the whole Spotify client because the
Squeezeboxes' can't play albums.
Even worse for Napster. I also have some plans for sharing your own
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2011-07-12 Thread Scidd0w

thnx bigtime pippin!


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-12 Thread stevied123

Some interesting, and excellent features. Many thanks!

Just one thing though, I can't figure out how to browse Wikipedia with
the new update. I'm probably doing something stupid, or missing the
obvious, but could someone run through how I do this?


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2011-07-12 Thread stevied123

Thank you! :)


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-12 Thread Jeff Flowerday

Can you let us modify the default message that gets posted to facebook
and twitter.  I think the following would make more sense.

Artist: blah blah.  blah blah from album blah blah


I was just listening to Black Country Communion, so it wanted to post
the following to my wall:

Black Country Communion.  Black Country from Black Country Communion.


Some of my friends might think I'm smoking something with this
particular post, especially if they don't know what iPeng is.

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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-12 Thread youngml2009

pippin;640130 Wrote: 
  
 
 *iPeng now shows an AirPlay control for the iPeng Player if there
 is an AirPlay device on the network, so you don’t have to use the task
 bar four audio routing.
 
 

This is a very convenient feature.  Thanks for the update!


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-12 Thread pippin

)p(;640174 Wrote: 
 I think that is a good compromise for most users for the wiki.
 
 Maybe take a look at triodes spotify plugin does it. It lets you paste
 track, playlist, album and artist url's into ipeng.

Does it? In that case it should work to play an album because iPeng
will just pass that URL on.


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-12 Thread pippin

Jeff Flowerday;640218 Wrote: 
 Can you let us modify the default message that gets posted to facebook
 and twitter.  I think the following would make more sense.
 
 Artist: blah blah.  blah blah from album blah blah
 
 
 I was just listening to Black Country Communion, so it wanted to post
 the following to my wall:
 
 Black Country Communion.  Black Country from Black Country Communion.
 
 
 Some of my friends might think I'm smoking something with this
 particular post, especially if they don't know what iPeng is.
 
 :)

There are a lot of different varieties of default messages depending on
where the music comes from, it's a bit difficult.
But you can always modify the message before actually sending it. The
Twitter version even knows how many characters the shortened URL costs
so you can fill your 140 characters


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-12 Thread erland

pippin;640170 Wrote: 
 
 On the Spotify albums: yes, I plan to add that but it essentially means
 I have to re-implement the whole Spotify client because the
 Squeezeboxes' can't play albums.
 Even worse for Napster. I also have some plans for sharing your own
 library (Ping or Amazon).
 
Just to better understand this, to make it work with MySB I guess you
would have to implement it in iPeng, but if we would be satisfied if it
worked with SBS it would be enough if there was a plugin on the server
that could interpret spotify:album:xxx and spotify:artist:xxx, is that
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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-12 Thread pippin

erland;640242 Wrote: 
 Just to better understand this, to make it work with MySB I guess you
 would have to implement it in iPeng, but if we would be satisfied if it
 worked with SBS it would be enough if there was a plugin on the server
 that could interpret spotify:album:xxx and spotify:artist:xxx, is that
 right ?

Yes. If you've got a link that is one of

Code:


  spotify:track|album|playlist|whatever:item_id
  spotify://track|album|playlist|whatever:item_id
  


It will be passed on to SBS/MySB but SBS/MySB currently only understand
track as a command.
If you've got

Code:


  http://open.spotify.com/track|album|playlist|whatever/item_id
  


it gets passed to SBS/MySB as

Code:


  spotify:track|album|playlist|whatever:item_id
  



I plan (and started to implement it) to parse playlists/albums myself
and send all the content to SBS/MySB but that's not ready yet and I
didn't want it to hold up the release.

Same for Napster, WiMP and Rhapsody although iPeng will probably not be
able to create Napster links that will work outside iPeng because
Napster doesn't have a published and globally consistent API for
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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-12 Thread epoch1970

I see you've repaired the switch player feature, thanks a lot.

I don't use twitter and I'm not too happy with the state of FB (I think
you've done fine, though), I guess I'll see how all this fares under
Google+.

Isn't possible to post a full album, rather than a single song ?


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-12 Thread pippin

)p(;640307 Wrote: 
 It does only work when you paste the url in the spotify uri field in
 triode's plugin. From your links only the track version works.

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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-12 Thread norderney

In order to use Facebook with iPeng do I need to configure anything?

If I press the current playing track it displays a menu with Share
This. If I select Share This it just says Share This... And nothing
else?

In App Gallery under Social Network, if I select Facebook it says
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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-12 Thread Triode

)p(;640314 Wrote: 
 I think the plugin cant handle those urls correctly when they are passed
 to it directly. When I use the link for an album from an email. It does
 show the artwork. But it looks like it thinks that the album is just
 one track because there is only one item in the playlist. So if you are
 forwarding the correct url I think Triode will have to adjust the code
 to handle them like he does when you paste them directly into the
 plugin.

Yes the spotifyd plugin will need updating to play album uris.  I am
wary of exploding artist Uris into all tracks though as there could be
a lot - what would you want it to do, play the top x tracks, what size
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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-12 Thread pippin

You need to enable it in the App Gallery under iPeng Apps


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-12 Thread stevied123

Many thanks for the features in this new update, very useful (imo).

One minor problem with the Wikipedia look-up though, if the search
'string' contains an ampersand (''), it cannot read it, or past it.
For example, I searched the song 'For Me  My Gal', and only got
results for 'For Me'.

And additionally, I have a reqest for an added feature on the Wikipedia
subject if at all possible. Would it be possible for available searches
for 'Composer' or other additional fields?


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2011-07-12 Thread pippin

Oops (). Thanks. Will need to encode the query.

On the Composer: I plan to make this more flexible but starting with
just the composer might indeed be a good idea. 
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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-12 Thread norderney

pippin;640319 Wrote: 
 You need to enable it in the App Gallery under iPeng Apps

Thanks for your speedy reply.

I've done this and I'm logged onto Facebook. But how do I share music?

Is it done by selecting Share This on the context menu?  I have done
this several times while music is playing and I have various tracks
selected in my playlist. When I select Share This nothing happens. It
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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-12 Thread pippin

Umm... It doesn't even bring up share by mail? Then it's nothing to do
with the service... Actually it's really strange. What are you listening
to?
Sounds like the title information parsing returns something illegal or
so. It should at least allow you to share Title, Artist and Album via
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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-12 Thread bluegaspode

posting to facebook doesn't work well in portrait ...


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-12 Thread pippin

bluegaspode;640327 Wrote: 
 posting to facebook doesn't work well in portrait ...

Why not? Can you send me a screen shot?
Sometimes the Facebook web dialog gets scrabbled if it doesn't like the
meta information for the link or can't find any (as for napster links),
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2011-07-12 Thread bluegaspode

pippin;640330 Wrote: 
 Why not? Can you send me a screen shot?

sorry - i meant landscape.
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2011-07-12 Thread pippin

bluegaspode;640327 Wrote: 
 posting to facebook doesn't work well in portrait ...

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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-12 Thread norderney

pippin;640328 Wrote: 
 Umm... It doesn't even bring up share by mail? Then it's nothing to do
 with the service... Actually it's really strange. What are you listening
 to?
 Sounds like the title information parsing returns something illegal or
 so. It should at least allow you to share Title, Artist and Album via
 Mail, if Twitter or Facebook is enabled also through these.

I'm listening to various Jazz tracks from albums I have ripped onto you
HDD in FLAC, so basically I am just playing back normal FLAC music
files.
When I select Share This it brings up a rectangular box with the track
name at the top and then Share This below it, and that is all that's
displayed.

Nothing appears to being posted to Facebook, although  have set up
Facebook in App Gallery and I can access my FB wall, photos etc via
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2011-07-12 Thread pippin

bluegaspode;640331 Wrote: 
 sorry - i meant landscape.
 it switches to portrait while posting.

Ah. I see. Looks like I have to dig deeper into facebook's code (I did
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2011-07-12 Thread pippin

norderney;640333 Wrote: 
 I'm listening to various Jazz tracks from albums I have ripped onto you
 HDD in FLAC, so basically I am just playing back normal FLAC music
 files.
 When I select Share This it brings up a rectangular box with the track
 name at the top and then Share This below it, and that is all that's
 displayed.
 
 Nothing appears to being posted to Facebook, although  have set up
 Facebook in App Gallery and I can access my FB wall, photos etc via
 iPeng app.

Yes, that box is an empty menu.
Could you send me one of the files (a short one, please) that causes
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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-12 Thread norderney

pippin;640335 Wrote: 
 Yes, that box is an empty menu.
 Could you send me one of the files (a short one, please) that causes
 trouble?
 Any ampersands in there, too? Wait, they should not mean any issue
 here...

How is the best way to send one of my files to you? By e-mail? I don't
seem to be able to add an attachment to a Private Message within the SB
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2011-07-12 Thread pippin

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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-07-11 Thread danull

Somebody is bound to ask so might as well be me... Any plans to bring
this to Google+ ?


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