Re: PPIG discuss: Programmer education argument-starter of the week

2007-07-02 Thread Sarah Mount
On 01/07/07, Lindsay Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bjorn Reese wrote: The students used longer titles, such as count number of occurrences and find if any element is of some sort, whereas the professionals used short titles, such as count and find. This could indicate that the looping

FW: PPIG discuss: Programmer education argument-starter of the week

2007-07-02 Thread Walter Milner
Some arbitrary thoughts 1. 'Learning to program' is not atomic - it might include the syntax and semantics of a given language, learning abt data structures and algorithms, trying to understand a given paradigm (eg OOP), developing problem-solving skills. So maybe different parts of learning to

Re: PPIG discuss: Programmer education argument-starter of the week

2007-07-02 Thread Frank Wales
Oh, by the way... A while ago, Mark Guzdial wrote: [...] If we're agreed that there is no geek gene, I don't agree with that contention at all, in the sense that I believe that some people have a knack for technology that others don't, that that knack is as much a part of their make up as their

RE: PPIG discuss: Programmer education argument-starter of the week

2007-07-02 Thread Lindsay Marshall
So I would be, frankly, astonished if it could be shown that *everyone* is equally trainable in programming to a professional standard, any more than it could be shown that everyone could learn to be a professional golfer or a professional artist or a professional mathematician or a

Re: PPIG discuss: Programmer education argument-starter of the week

2007-07-02 Thread ok
On 3 Jul 2007, at 3:20 am, Lindsay Marshall wrote: So I would be, frankly, astonished if it could be shown that *everyone* is equally trainable in programming to a professional standard, any more than it could be shown that everyone could learn to be a professional golfer or a professional