Re: [ACFUG Discuss] (new topic) You CAN use CFINCLUDE to deliver css file, fewer http requests

2007-03-18 Thread Universal Advertising Derrick Peavy
OK, I'll retract that. But I will say that when I tested my pages uses external tools, the page load was faster when including the CSS. What I read in the Yahoo study is that about 60% of users do not have the CSS file in cache. But, as you say, since everyone's configuration may differ. I

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] (new topic) You CAN use CFINCLUDE to deliver css file, fewer http requests

2007-03-17 Thread Howard Fore
Actually I think Ajax uses a different set of tubes. On 3/17/07, Dean H. Saxe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mar 17, 2007, at 9:53 PM, Howard Fore wrote: > I just don't think that the number of http connections in a > page is the final measure of that page's performance. > If it did, we'd never

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] (new topic) You CAN use CFINCLUDE to deliver css file, fewer http requests

2007-03-17 Thread Dean H. Saxe
On Mar 17, 2007, at 9:53 PM, Howard Fore wrote: I just don't think that the number of http connections in a page is the final measure of that page's performance. If it did, we'd never see anyone use AJAX. AJAX apps are noisy little things! Thanks for confirming my suspicions on this one

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] (new topic) You CAN use CFINCLUDE to deliver css file, fewer http requests

2007-03-17 Thread Howard Fore
Nope not ticked off. But first, "how the browser saves files" was your issue, not mine: it solves the problem of a user saving the page locally just as well as using a full qualified path in the head of the page would. " The Yahoo study is a good read, though it seems a little "duh" to me. ("No

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] (new topic) You CAN use CFINCLUDE to deliver css file, fewer http requests

2007-03-17 Thread Universal Advertising Derrick Peavy
H No. You're wrong. Seriously, not trying to tick you off, but you should read this: http://yuiblog.com/blog/2006/11/28/performance-research-part-1/ I fully understand and am aware of the separation of content and style, it's pro's and con's. How the browsers save things

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] (new topic) You CAN use CFINCLUDE to deliver css file, fewer http requests

2007-03-17 Thread Howard Fore
One of the nice things about using style sheets that are external to your HTML is that modern browsers won't download the CSS file again if the file hasn't changed. So you save n KB per HTTP request. Small, but it does add up, especially for a site with a lot of pages, like a shopping site. As far

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] (new topic) You CAN use CFINCLUDE to deliver css file, fewer http requests

2007-03-16 Thread Robert Reil
com/> _ From: Universal Advertising Derrick Peavy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 8:20 AM To: Carbs Sales&Service Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] (new topic) You CAN use CFINCLUDE to deliver css file, fewer http requests Honestly, I didn't follow the cfinclude/css thread after

[ACFUG Discuss] (new topic) You CAN use CFINCLUDE to deliver css file, fewer http requests

2007-03-16 Thread Universal Advertising Derrick Peavy
Honestly, I didn't follow the cfinclude/css thread after the first post because it was not what I thought it was. However, if it is even remotely related, I thought the OP might want to know, you can use CFINCLUDE to deliver your CSS files in the head of your pages. I do this to reduce the