Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-06-21 Thread Katja Gucek
Hi, On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Evaggelos Balaskas wrote: > > For me one important thing is this: > If you want to invite people to opensource then you need somehow to > reach them! > I very much agree with Evaggelos, even though sometimes I am an idealist. If we only use

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-06-21 Thread Max Mehl
# jah [2017-06-21 17:46 +0200]: If it is true that humans tend to seek out ideas that confirm their own, then it seems likely FSFE's twitter followers belong to the set of people who do not need convincing to use and further Free Software. As one of the maintainers of the FSFE's Twitter

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-06-21 Thread Paul Boddie
On Wednesday 21. June 2017 17.20.05 Federico Bruni wrote: being dangerous or controversial at all. > > I commented that we cannot expect real free speech in a walled garden > and these events should encourage video bloggers to start using > alternative platforms. He replied that there's no big

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-06-21 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno mer 21 giu 2017 alle 16:47, Daniel Pocock ha scritto: - systems like facebook are made by the establishment, for the establishment. Zuckerberg is a regular at Bilderberg these days. This brings me to the age old question: can you change the system by using the

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-06-21 Thread Evaggelos Balaskas
If not being mistaken, that was the very topic of Rysiek in the last fsfe summit "Free Software and the Network Effect: fight it or ride it?" For me one important thing is this: If you want to invite people to opensource then you need somehow to reach them! On 06/21/2017 05:47 PM, Daniel

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-06-21 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 21/06/17 12:22, Erik Albers wrote: > Now I would be interested what you think? Do you think that - although the use > of proprietary platforms is ethically not supportable - the chances of > convincing new people to use and further Free Software are worth the > punishment? > Or do you think

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-06-21 Thread Paul Boddie
On Wednesday 21. June 2017 12.22.30 Erik Albers wrote: > > Now I would be interested what you think? Do you think that - although the > use of proprietary platforms is ethically not supportable - the chances of > convincing new people to use and further Free Software are worth the > punishment?

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-06-21 Thread mray
On 21.06.2017 12:22, Erik Albers wrote: > Hi all, > > Maybe you noted in the Newsletter May [1] a pro and contra between our > Executive Director and our Fellowship representative: > > On the FSFE's Planet, we had an interesting dialogue popping up > between our executive director