Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-08-21 Thread Paul Boddie
On Monday 21. August 2017 13.51.49 Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote: > I think you mean "private software" which is only used by yorself, and > not shared to anyone, not even co-workers. Once you share it at least > with someone, it ought to be free/libre because it's no longer > "private". Sorry,

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-08-21 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
I think you mean "private software" which is only used by yorself, and not shared to anyone, not even co-workers. Once you share it at least with someone, it ought to be free/libre because it's no longer "private". Also, I disagree in the statement that Facebook can simply be considered only a

Re: Free Software security vulnerabilities: Heartbleed and other case studies?

2017-08-21 Thread Hugo Roy
Thanks Vitaly! It's true that many license compliance tools are now taking security into account, which is an interesting development. Also on topic: https://www.esmt.org/sites/default/files/dsi_ipr5_engl-dt.pdf Best, Hugo ↪ Vitaly Repin / août 14, 2017 12:11: Hello, I think I have to add my

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-08-21 Thread Vicen Rodriguez
Hi, I think that this reasoning perfectly expresses my point of view on this topic. Thanks Bastien. Best regards Vicen El lun, 14-08-2017 a las 17:11 +0200, Bastien Guerry escribió: > Here is my position, stated as "logically" as possible. > > My premisses are these: > > A. FSFE

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-08-21 Thread Mat Witts
I think that's an understandable reaction in the circumstances. best wishes. ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfe.org https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-08-21 Thread Mat Witts
> I completely disagree. Okay. That sounds emphatic. I don't want to cut in on how you feel Bastien but simply to point out the confusing motivations at play here. > Knowing that FSFE is using Facebook provokes two reactions in me: one is my > "gut feeling" ("guys??"), another one is the one

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-08-21 Thread Mat Witts
> Here is my position, stated as "logically" as possible. Okay, although I'm not sure this is the best way to approach things because I suspect we may be arguing about tactics, not ethics. Discouraging people from using FB for example can be restated as 'encouraging people to use FS'. I prefer