Thank you for your answers.
Now I understand that "become a supporter" is better than "join the fellowship"
because it is less confusing since (full) members have a vote and supporting
("members") and volunteer ("members") don't... but that is just the legal
aspect of the problem which can easi
Hi,
Timothy Pearson writes:
> I guess this is really a variation on the age-old practice of "loss
> leaders", but taken to such an extreme that it's now expected of every
> tech product. Combined with 120+ year copyright it's rather hard to
> come up with a solution other than to just not use t
Hi Jonas,
Jonas Oberg writes:
> As has been pointed out before, the FSF doesn't have this problem with
> "Join" implying equal status. So I'd trust them on this, as native
> speakers :-)
That is true. However, they use the term "associate member" instead of
supporter, so that is why they use t
Right, the point is that "Join" as they use it doesn't really map, as far as I
can tell, to either of these categories. You don't become a member, you
definitely aren't staff, and I think volunteers only count those volunteering,
not necessarily those contributing financially. Either way, you do
On 30/11/17 16:55, Jonas Oberg wrote:
> As has been pointed out before, the FSF doesn't have this problem with "Join"
> implying equal status. So I'd trust them on this, as native speakers :-)
This page has a link to their articles and bylaws:
https://www.fsf.org/about/financial
http://stati
As has been pointed out before, the FSF doesn't have this problem with "Join"
implying equal status. So I'd trust them on this, as native speakers :-)
Best
Jonas
On November 30, 2017 4:43:23 PM GMT+01:00, Daniel Pocock
wrote:
>
>
>On 30/11/17 16:26, Gergely Székely wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> I thin
Hi Gergely,
# Gergely Székely [2017-11-30 16:26 +0100]:
I think it was not a good idea at all to change the "Join the ..." to
"Become a supporter".
My point is that "being a member" of something (even if just an
associate one) suggests a much stronger bound than being just a
"supporter". So I
On 30/11/17 16:26, Gergely Székely wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I think it was not a good idea at all to change the "Join the ..." to
> "Become a supporter".
>
Asking people to join means they should have an equal status. The
current constitution doesn't treat all members equally (a GA member has
a diff
Hi!
I think it was not a good idea at all to change the "Join the ..." to "Become a
supporter".
My point is that "being a member" of something (even if just an associate one)
suggests a much stronger bound than being just a "supporter". So I think using
phrases as "Join the FSFE", "become a(n
On Thursday 30. November 2017 13.00.52 Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote:
> Reading the comments that replied to your message there make me feel
> like a blind person in a shootout...
Well, I guess there is some additional history that isn't readily apparent
from reading my remarks and others. Persona
Reading the comments that replied to your message there make me feel
like a blind person in a shootout...
Anyways, back on the topic.
I think one way out of this would be making free/libre software that
follows entirely public and well document "open" standards (as some
people call it, although I
Hi Timothy,
# Timothy Pearson [2017-11-29 20:25 +0100]:
Yes, I agree. The question is, in a society where any new features /
ways of doing things are expected at no cost or well below the real cost
of creating things, how does society as a whole move away from the
resultant need to "monetise" t
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