Re: [GA] who is a member?

2018-02-07 Thread Florian Snow
Hi everyone, Daniel Pocock writes: > As I am not an ordinary member of the GA, rather, I am a fellowship > representative, I try to consider the views of all fellows, supporters > and volunteers and not just my own views when communicating with the > GA. Just to clarify this a bit: I am not a

Re: [GA] who is a member?

2018-02-07 Thread Bernhard E. Reiter
Am Dienstag 06 Februar 2018 23:19:38 schrieb Daniel Pocock: > This is why it is so important for us to determine if anybody else may > either have achieved the status of being a member by completing the > "Join the FSFE" form Which is quite clear form the constitution of the legal association: no

Re: [GA] who is a member?

2018-02-06 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 06/02/18 20:37, Jonas Oberg wrote: > Hi Werner, > >> Right feedback seems to be welcome, but discussion is done behind closed >> doors. With today's words of a board member to the members only list: > To be clear, these words are mine: > >> Regardless of what we individually think about our s

Re: [GA] who is a member?

2018-02-06 Thread Jonas Oberg
Hi Werner, > Right feedback seems to be welcome, but discussion is done behind closed > doors. With today's words of a board member to the members only list: To be clear, these words are mine: > Regardless of what we individually think about our structure (and you > know I have strong opini

Re: [GA] who is a member?

2018-02-06 Thread Werner Koch
On Tue, 6 Feb 2018 18:12, florians...@fsfe.org said: > Thank you for your feedback! Information like that is helpful in making Right feedback seems to be welcome, but discussion is done behind closed doors. With today's words of a board member to the members only list: Regardless of what we

Re: [GA] who is a member?

2018-02-06 Thread Florian Snow
Hi Mat, Thank you for your feedback! Information like that is helpful in making the FSFE a better organization for everyone. Of course, your feedback will not be the only thing to consider, but I find it especially important to hear feedback from someone like you who stopped contributing financi

Re: [GA] who is a member?

2018-02-05 Thread Mat Witts
> I am sorry. This is one sentence? Yes. Well observed. If you also notice it was a response to Florian's invitation to 'elaborat[e] a little bit about your experience?'. The request was a bit vague but I wrote in good faith about my experience as requested. This included some irritation which I

Re: [GA] who is a member?

2018-02-05 Thread Carmen Bianca Bakker
Je 2018-02-05 14:59:23, Mat Witts skribis: > There are > many ways to do that from elections, polls, forums, working groups and > all the rest of it but if either one is missing - 1) clear policy and > 2) evidence of freely conferred deference to them from members (and it > seems both appear to be

[GA] who is a member?

2018-02-05 Thread Mat Witts
Hi Florian, >> I have left the FSFE because (among other things) there appears to be >> multiple levels of practical engagement with policy (which is fine) but it >> is based on a rather obscure set of policies concerning what membership >> means (which is not fine). > I am trying to understan

Re: [GA] who is a member?

2018-02-05 Thread Florian Snow
Hi Mat, Mat Witts writes: > I have left the FSFE because (among other things) there appears to be > multiple levels of practical engagement with policy (which is fine) > but it is based on a rather obscure set of policies concerning what > membership means (which is not fine). Thank you for tha

Re: [GA] who is a member?

2018-02-05 Thread Mat Witts
> Today we had a poster near our FOSDEM booth saying "Join us at the Funky > Monkey", and indeed a nice bunch of people met in that pub. I didn't have the > impression that any of them felt having become a formal member of the legal > association by following the invitation to join. Small sample

Re: [GA] who is a member?

2018-02-03 Thread Reinhard Müller
Am 02. Februar 2018 17:12:10 MEZ schrieb Daniel Pocock : > - after clicking the "Join" buttons on the FSFE web site and filling > out > a form with the heading "Join the FSFE" and making a payment to the > association, people felt they had become a "member" of FSFE e.V. Today we had a poster near

Re: who is a member?

2018-02-02 Thread Werner Koch
On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 17:12, dan...@pocock.pro said: > There are practical problems with this.  The most obvious problem is > that there is no board and the GA functions a little bit like a board > and a board with 1,700 members would not be very functional.  To resolve That is not correct. Unless

Re: who is a member?

2018-02-02 Thread Carsten Agger
On 02/02/2018 05:52 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote: On 02/02/18 17:48, Florian Snow wrote: Hi Daniel, As far as I remember, the form said "Join the Fellowship" and explained that this was a financial contribution. If you go to https://fsfe.org and click "Become a supporter" it still shows the s

Re: who is a member?

2018-02-02 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 02/02/18 17:48, Florian Snow wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > As far as I remember, the form said "Join the Fellowship" and explained that > this was a financial contribution. If you go to https://fsfe.org and click "Become a supporter" it still shows the same form with the title "Join the FSFE" The

Re: who is a member?

2018-02-02 Thread Florian Snow
Hi Daniel, As far as I remember, the form said "Join the Fellowship" and explained that this was a financial contribution. Happy hacking! Florian ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfe.org https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion

who is a member?

2018-02-02 Thread Daniel Pocock
Hi all, There has been some discussion over the years about what "Joining" and "Membership" means in FSFE. As fellowship representative, I've received feedback from a number of people about this topic and it keeps coming up, ever since I was elected in 2017.  As our organization is all about peo