Re: selective censorship (aka some words from your list-admins)

2018-09-06 Thread Erik Albers
Dear Daniel,

On 05.09.2018 20:25, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> One of those posts is so offensive and inaccurate that I would kindly
> request that if you are willing to censor new subscribers, 

Moderation is unlike censorship. Every message that is written in an
appropriate tone will be delivered to the list, no matter the opinion.

> you also
> censor that GA member by removing his post from the public archive.

removing posts from the archive is not possible (for me).


> I would also request that you escalate that particular post to the CARE
> team.

When anyone feels attacked on a FSFE list in a way that is against our Code of
Conduct, please contact the CARE team about it directly yourself. You do not
need me or anyone else for this process in between. You can find contact
information of the team and its individuals here:

https://fsfe.org/about/codeofconduct#CARE

Best regards,
   Erik

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Re: selective censorship (aka some words from your list-admins)

2018-09-05 Thread Stefan Uygur
And for once l quote you totally.

It is ridiculous and shameful behaviour of this individual. Outrageous.

They all should resign unanimously because l see no one stopping this
madness from inside.

On Wed, 5 Sep 2018, 19:25 Daniel Pocock,  wrote:

>
>
> On 05/09/18 16:49, Erik Albers wrote:
>
> > The list administration would like to help bring back a good tone and
> > discussion culture by moderating the discussion if necessary and for now
> we
> > set new subscriptions to the list on moderation.
> >
>
> The most offensive accusations made on the list today were not from new
> subscribers, they appear to be made by a GA member from Germany, in fact
> former country coordinator for Germany.  Out of your respect for your
> request for being friendly, I'll avoid repeating his name again.
>
> One of those posts is so offensive and inaccurate that I would kindly
> request that if you are willing to censor new subscribers, you also
> censor that GA member by removing his post from the public archive.
>
> I would also request that you escalate that particular post to the CARE
> team.
>
> The root cause of all this appears to be the executive's decision to
> attack the fellowship representative with an ultimately unsuccessful
> motion to prematurely terminate his membership of FSFE e.V.  I remain of
> the opinion that the resignation of the president may be more effective
> in helping the community move on from that than tweaking moderation
> settings.
>
> Regards,
>
> Daniel
>
> FSFE Fellowship Representative
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Re: selective censorship (aka some words from your list-admins)

2018-09-05 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 05/09/18 16:49, Erik Albers wrote:

> The list administration would like to help bring back a good tone and
> discussion culture by moderating the discussion if necessary and for now we
> set new subscriptions to the list on moderation.
>

The most offensive accusations made on the list today were not from new
subscribers, they appear to be made by a GA member from Germany, in fact
former country coordinator for Germany.  Out of your respect for your
request for being friendly, I'll avoid repeating his name again.

One of those posts is so offensive and inaccurate that I would kindly
request that if you are willing to censor new subscribers, you also
censor that GA member by removing his post from the public archive.

I would also request that you escalate that particular post to the CARE
team.

The root cause of all this appears to be the executive's decision to
attack the fellowship representative with an ultimately unsuccessful
motion to prematurely terminate his membership of FSFE e.V.  I remain of
the opinion that the resignation of the president may be more effective
in helping the community move on from that than tweaking moderation
settings.

Regards,

Daniel

FSFE Fellowship Representative
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