[pfSense-discussion] access NATed services by the public IP address from LAN review

2006-01-06 Thread Claudio Castro

Guys..listen to this:

*Problem. *It is not possible to access NATed services using the 
public (WAN) IP address from within LAN (or an optional network). 
Example: you've got a server in your LAN behind pfSense and added a 
NAT/filter rule to allow external access to its HTTP port. While you 
can access it just fine from the Internet, you cannot access 
http://your-external-ip/ from within your LAN.


*Reason. *This is due to a limitation in pf (the firewalling software 
used in pfSense). pfSense does not include a bounce utility at this 
time


Ok, we all know that, but, looking at here: 
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/rdr.html#reflect it propose 3 solutions, 
the first one is the same that m0n0 FAQ's propose,  
fordwarding/overriding of DNS. Now, the second..catch my attention, it 
says this:



 Moving the Server Into a Separate Local Network

Adding an additional network interface to the firewall and moving the 
local server from the client's network into a dedicated network (DMZ) 
allows redirecting of connections from local clients in the same way 
as the redirection of external connections. Use of separate networks 
has several advantages, including improving security by isolating the 
server from the remaining local hosts. Should the server (which in our 
case is reachable from the Internet) ever become compromised, it can't 
access other local hosts directly as all connections have to pass 
through the firewall.


So, that means that if I have my NATed services in a different 
interface (other than the LAN) e.g. a DMZ, is it possible to access 
this NATed services from the LAN Subnet??
and is that is correct, HOW do I redirect connections from local 
clients in order to access the NATed services on DMZ?


Regards,

Claudio C.

 







Re: [pfSense-discussion] access NATed services by the public IP address from LAN review

2006-01-06 Thread Scott Ullrich
Do you have a question?

On 1/6/06, Claudio Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Guys..listen to this:
 
  *Problem. *It is not possible to access NATed services using the
  public (WAN) IP address from within LAN (or an optional network).
  Example: you've got a server in your LAN behind pfSense and added a
  NAT/filter rule to allow external access to its HTTP port. While you
  can access it just fine from the Internet, you cannot access
  http://your-external-ip/ from within your LAN.
 
  *Reason. *This is due to a limitation in pf (the firewalling software
  used in pfSense). pfSense does not include a bounce utility at this
  time
 
  Ok, we all know that, but, looking at here:
  http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/rdr.html#reflect it propose 3 solutions,
  the first one is the same that m0n0 FAQ's propose,
  fordwarding/overriding of DNS. Now, the second..catch my attention, it
  says this:
 
 
   Moving the Server Into a Separate Local Network
 
  Adding an additional network interface to the firewall and moving the
  local server from the client's network into a dedicated network (DMZ)
  allows redirecting of connections from local clients in the same way
  as the redirection of external connections. Use of separate networks
  has several advantages, including improving security by isolating the
  server from the remaining local hosts. Should the server (which in our
  case is reachable from the Internet) ever become compromised, it can't
  access other local hosts directly as all connections have to pass
  through the firewall.
 
  So, that means that if I have my NATed services in a different
  interface (other than the LAN) e.g. a DMZ, is it possible to access
  this NATed services from the LAN Subnet??
  and is that is correct, HOW do I redirect connections from local
  clients in order to access the NATed services on DMZ?
 
  Regards,
 
  Claudio C.
 
 
 
 




Re: [pfSense-discussion] access NATed services by the public IP address from LAN review

2006-01-06 Thread Claudio Castro

Scott Ullrich escribió:

Do you have a question?
  


Of course, cant you read?

So, that means that if I have my NATed services in a different
interface (other than the LAN) e.g. a DMZ, is it possible to access
this NATed services from the LAN Subnet??
and is that is correct, HOW do I redirect connections from local
clients in order to access the NATed services on DMZ?

And let me add another question, does pfsense include a bopunce utility at this 
time?



On 1/6/06, Claudio Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Guys..listen to this:

*Problem. *It is not possible to access NATed services using the
public (WAN) IP address from within LAN (or an optional network).
Example: you've got a server in your LAN behind pfSense and added a
NAT/filter rule to allow external access to its HTTP port. While you
can access it just fine from the Internet, you cannot access
http://your-external-ip/ from within your LAN.

*Reason. *This is due to a limitation in pf (the firewalling software
used in pfSense). pfSense does not include a bounce utility at this
time

Ok, we all know that, but, looking at here:
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/rdr.html#reflect it propose 3 solutions,
the first one is the same that m0n0 FAQ's propose,
fordwarding/overriding of DNS. Now, the second..catch my attention, it
says this:


 Moving the Server Into a Separate Local Network

Adding an additional network interface to the firewall and moving the
local server from the client's network into a dedicated network (DMZ)
allows redirecting of connections from local clients in the same way
as the redirection of external connections. Use of separate networks
has several advantages, including improving security by isolating the
server from the remaining local hosts. Should the server (which in our
case is reachable from the Internet) ever become compromised, it can't
access other local hosts directly as all connections have to pass
through the firewall.

So, that means that if I have my NATed services in a different
interface (other than the LAN) e.g. a DMZ, is it possible to access
this NATed services from the LAN Subnet??
and is that is correct, HOW do I redirect connections from local
clients in order to access the NATed services on DMZ?

Regards,

Claudio C.




  



  




Re: [pfSense-discussion] access NATed services by the public IP address from LAN review

2006-01-06 Thread Bill Marquette
Someone hasn't done their research.  This has been answered in the ML,
the forum, the FAQ, AND the blog.

--Bill

On 1/6/06, Claudio Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Scott Ullrich escribió:
  Do you have a question?
 

 Of course, cant you read?

 So, that means that if I have my NATed services in a different
 interface (other than the LAN) e.g. a DMZ, is it possible to access
 this NATed services from the LAN Subnet??
 and is that is correct, HOW do I redirect connections from local
 clients in order to access the NATed services on DMZ?

 And let me add another question, does pfsense include a bopunce utility at 
 this time?


  On 1/6/06, Claudio Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Guys..listen to this:
 
  *Problem. *It is not possible to access NATed services using the
  public (WAN) IP address from within LAN (or an optional network).
  Example: you've got a server in your LAN behind pfSense and added a
  NAT/filter rule to allow external access to its HTTP port. While you
  can access it just fine from the Internet, you cannot access
  http://your-external-ip/ from within your LAN.
 
  *Reason. *This is due to a limitation in pf (the firewalling software
  used in pfSense). pfSense does not include a bounce utility at this
  time
 
  Ok, we all know that, but, looking at here:
  http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/rdr.html#reflect it propose 3 solutions,
  the first one is the same that m0n0 FAQ's propose,
  fordwarding/overriding of DNS. Now, the second..catch my attention, it
  says this:
 
 
   Moving the Server Into a Separate Local Network
 
  Adding an additional network interface to the firewall and moving the
  local server from the client's network into a dedicated network (DMZ)
  allows redirecting of connections from local clients in the same way
  as the redirection of external connections. Use of separate networks
  has several advantages, including improving security by isolating the
  server from the remaining local hosts. Should the server (which in our
  case is reachable from the Internet) ever become compromised, it can't
  access other local hosts directly as all connections have to pass
  through the firewall.
 
  So, that means that if I have my NATed services in a different
  interface (other than the LAN) e.g. a DMZ, is it possible to access
  this NATed services from the LAN Subnet??
  and is that is correct, HOW do I redirect connections from local
  clients in order to access the NATed services on DMZ?
 
  Regards,
 
  Claudio C.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




Re: [pfSense-discussion] access NATed services by the public IP address from LAN review

2006-01-06 Thread Chris Buechler

Bill Marquette wrote:


Someone hasn't done their research.  This has been answered in the ML,
the forum, the FAQ, AND the blog.
 



*AND* today on the m0n0wall list, where he originally sent this message, 
and got my answer 8 minutes before sending the message again to this list. 





Re: [pfSense-discussion] Allowing pings on a virtual interface

2006-01-06 Thread kim . callis
Thanks Scott,

That was exactly what I was missing! A quick 1:1 and
everything was good to go!

K.



On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 03:34:19PM -0500, Scott Ullrich wrote:
The only way to do this is to 1:1 the mail server then allow ping to
the external ip.

On 1/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am able to allow pings on my WAN interface, but there is a
 second address that forwards over to my mailserver that I
 would like to be able to ping. How do I go about doing that?
 I added rules to the host that is on the LAN, as well as
 creating a rule for the externally address and still no
 response.

 K.