Re: WeMakeFedora is under attack

2022-02-23 Thread Quiliro Ordóñez
El 2022-02-23 18:13, faifl...@danwin1210.de escribió: >> Oh, you want to educate the user to use his/hers freedom in a proper way. > >> That's interesting! > > > Freedom has typically moved forward more quickly with advocacy and > education (to the benefit of the free) than without. This

Re: WeMakeFedora is under attack

2022-02-23 Thread faiflabs
> Oh, you want to educate the user to use his/hers freedom in a proper way. > That's interesting! Freedom has typically moved forward more quickly with advocacy and education (to the benefit of the free) than without. This doesn't negate the idea that such opportunities to educate can be

Re: WeMakeFedora is under attack

2022-02-23 Thread Quiliro Ordóñez
El 2022-02-23 13:10, Dr. Michael Stehmann escribió: > Hello, > > Am 23.02.22 um 17:19 schrieb Quiliro Ordóñez: > >> The choice for the user is to dump either the nonfree software or to >> dump the hardware. The later choice is the best one because the user >> will think about what she buys next

Re: WeMakeFedora is under attack

2022-02-23 Thread Dr. Michael Stehmann
Hello, Am 23.02.22 um 17:19 schrieb Quiliro Ordóñez: The choice for the user is to dump either the nonfree software or to dump the hardware. The later choice is the best one because the user will think about what she buys next time. It is a way to take responsability and stop relying the

Re: WeMakeFedora is under attack

2022-02-23 Thread Quiliro Ordóñez
Thank you for your take on this issue, Michael. El 2022-02-23 10:49, Dr. Michael Stehmann escribió: > Hello, > > the freedom no. 0 is to use software for any purpose. > > If you want to use software on a special computer model, you might > need non-free firmware. That is bad enough. > > It

Re: WeMakeFedora is under attack

2022-02-23 Thread Dr. Michael Stehmann
Hello, the freedom no. 0 is to use software for any purpose. If you want to use software on a special computer model, you might need non-free firmware. That is bad enough. It isn't a restriction by licence but an actual one. So distributors as users have the choice: Either to use (or

Re: WeMakeFedora is under attack

2022-02-23 Thread Quiliro Ordóñez
El 2022-02-23 09:44, Daniel Pocock escribió: > The censorship of certain blogs from Planet Fedora and censorship of > certain developers on mailing lists Censorship would also be a good reason for me not supporting them. But I have not investigated that case.

Re: WeMakeFedora is under attack

2022-02-23 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 23/02/2022 15:40, Quiliro Ordóñez wrote: > Hi. > >>> I don't support Fedora because it is not a free distro. >> >> Why do you say that Fedora is not a Free distro? > > "Fedora does have a clear policy about what can be included in the > distribution, and it seems to be followed carefully.

Re: WeMakeFedora is under attack

2022-02-22 Thread Adrienne G. Thompson
Quiliro: > I don't support Fedora because it is not a free distro. > Why do you say that Fedora is not a Free distro? Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! References: 1. GNU C-Graph: http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. Code Art Now: http://codeartnow.com 3. Abertheid

Re: WeMakeFedora is under attack

2022-02-22 Thread Quiliro Ordóñez
El 2022-02-22 09:03, Daniel Pocock escribió: > Please see my blog about the attack > > https://danielpocock.com/wemakefedora-and-ukraine-under-attack/ Thank you for the information. I read your post. I don't support Fedora because it is not a free distro.