Re: [pfSense-discussion] fully redundant dual-WAN setup

2009-08-11 Thread Holger Bauer
You are wrong. It IS working, if you set it up correctly. Please don't
make such untrue statements. If you need help in setting it up the
supportlist or forum is for you but don't tell people it is not
working just because YOU were not able to get it running.

Holger

2009/8/11 Veiko Kukk veiko.k...@krediidipank.ee:
 Eugen Leitl wrote:

 Can any of you point me to a network diagram illustrating such
 a setup, with two pfSense instances (how many NICs?) and two or
 three switches? I presume it needs carp+pfsync in order for it
 to work.

 I have tried dual wan and dual machine setup with no success. Dual wan
 pfsense only works with single machine. carp also works, but both carp
 *and* dual wan together does not work!
 And seems there are very few who care about pfsense failover ability,
 probably most people use single machine and single wan setups.

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 Veiko

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Re: [pfSense-discussion] fully redundant dual-WAN setup

2009-08-11 Thread Scott Ullrich
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Veiko Kukkveiko.k...@krediidipank.ee wrote:
 I have tried dual wan and dual machine setup with no success. Dual wan
 pfsense only works with single machine. carp also works, but both carp
 *and* dual wan together does not work!
 And seems there are very few who care about pfsense failover ability,
 probably most people use single machine and single wan setups.

Bt.  Nice assumptions there.   I run both CARP and Dual Wan at my
primary location and it works fine.   If you want help you need to go
into details of your setup etc.   If its configured correctly it
absolutely works great.

Scott

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Re: [pfSense-discussion] fully redundant dual-WAN setup

2009-08-11 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:22:52AM -0400, Scott Ullrich wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Veiko Kukkveiko.k...@krediidipank.ee wrote:
  I have tried dual wan and dual machine setup with no success. Dual wan
  pfsense only works with single machine. carp also works, but both carp
  *and* dual wan together does not work!
  And seems there are very few who care about pfsense failover ability,
  probably most people use single machine and single wan setups.
 
 Bt.  Nice assumptions there.   I run both CARP and Dual Wan at my
 primary location and it works fine.   If you want help you need to go
 into details of your setup etc.   If its configured correctly it
 absolutely works great.

Indeed, see prior post by Chris Buechler:

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On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Eugen Leitleu...@leitl.org wrote:

 Is any of you running pfSense in a fully redundant hosting setting?
 Care to share your setup?


I've done numerous designs and deployments like this for customers,
it's one of the more common things we do.

You might find my DCBSDCon 2009 presentation helpful. It covered
network perimeter redundancy in general, and showed a specific design
that's modeled after the most common hosting/colo environment
redundant setups.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aElQidbWUxA
I'm scared to watch it personally.  :)  But others have said it's pretty good.

I'd stay away from bridging if you can avoid it. Get a /29 on your WAN
side and a separate public block for the inside (if you don't want to
NAT), with the provider routing the inside subnet to a CARP VIP on
WAN. For the second drop, that depends on how they have it setup.
Whether they can offer BGP, or if that even makes sense, is NIC
bonding a possibility, what are any other potential routing options,
etc... That's mostly provider-dependent. Lot more to it than I have
time to cover. (though I'd be glad to work with you one on one with
the design and setup, see the link in the footer for commercial
support)

ESX or ESXi are good choices for testing, and it's not unheard of to
run your entire hosting/colo infrastructure including firewalls in ESX
or ESXi. It can make sense in some scenarios. I typically don't.

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Re: [pfSense-discussion] fully redundant dual-WAN setup

2009-08-11 Thread Evgeny Yurchenko


From: Veiko Kukk [mailto:veiko.k...@krediidipank.ee] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 5:04 AM
I have tried dual wan and dual machine setup with no success. 
Dual wan pfsense only works with single machine. carp also 
works, but both carp

*and* dual wan together does not work!
And seems there are very few who care about pfsense failover 
ability, probably most people use single machine and single 
wan setups.


--
Veiko



If you are in GTA area I can set it up for you almost for free -)))
Eugene.

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RE: [pfSense-discussion] fully redundant dual-WAN setup

2009-08-07 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
 -Original Message-
 Is any of you running pfSense in a fully redundant hosting setting?
 Care to share your setup?

Your ability to utilize the increased bandwidth is dependent on how the uplink 
is configured.  If you create an etherchannel, then the uplink is a function of 
layer 2, and it should just work.

I personally don't have any transparent PFSense boxes in production - I try to 
leave the layer 2 stuff to the Cisco infrastructure, and use PFsense for Layer 
3.  If you have control of the upstream router, you can use the OpenBGP package 
for load balancing across multiple peers, which would let you have multiple 
independent physical links to the upstream switches.

If I may ask - why use transparent mode?

I prototype my configurations in a test environment - I have a little old cisco 
router, a P4 rackmount and a few 2924s and 2950s I bought from a local 
technology recycler.  It cost about $250 to get a network testbed set up for 
the basic stuff, and I've added on as junk has come my way.  It's absolutely 
worth the money.

Best Regards
Nathan Eisenberg
Sr. Systems Administrator
Atlas Networks, LLC 



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