Re: Siddur for N900

2012-01-28 חוט Lior Kaplan
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Dov Grobgeld dov.grobg...@gmail.comwrote:

 The changes to Frank-Ruehl were part of a small project that I did a
 number of years ago, that used heuristics (same as in Pango) to build
 OpenType GPOS tables for any Hebrew font. I used CLM Frank-Reuhl as my test
 font for the scripts. I remember that there were a few problems left with
 my GPOS generating script, and since I did not want to do any manual
 polishing (since that would disable the ability to run the script again), I
 ended up not releasing anything at all. But since what I have is a lot
 better than the current Culmus font, I guess that I should release it as
 is. Who is in charge of Culmus these days?


Maxim is still the relevant person for any contributions for Culmus.
He's CCed to this mail.

Maxim, http://hamakor.org.il/pipermail/discussions/2012-January/003502.htmlis
the context of this mail.

Kaplan
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Re: Siddur for N900

2012-01-28 חוט Dov Grobgeld
Thanks. I have in the last few days returned to hacking on my automatic
Nikkud opentype anchor inserter program that I started working on in 2006.
Since then FontForge has got python bindings, so things are much easier
these days.

It turns out that for biblical hebrew with trop the placement rules are far
from simple. Fortunately the logics of the placement has already been
solved in the SBL font [
http://www.sbl-site.org/educational/BiblicalFonts_SBLHebrew.aspx]. Even
though the SBL font isn't totally free, I got the answer a few years back,
that it is ok to copy the chained positions and substitution logics from
it. That is my goal with the automatic nikkud insertion, to be able to
bless (like perl ;-) a Hebrew font with full Diacritics logics.

Shavua tov!
Dov

On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 19:09, Lior Kaplan kaplanl...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Dov Grobgeld dov.grobg...@gmail.comwrote:

 The changes to Frank-Ruehl were part of a small project that I did a
 number of years ago, that used heuristics (same as in Pango) to build
 OpenType GPOS tables for any Hebrew font. I used CLM Frank-Reuhl as my test
 font for the scripts. I remember that there were a few problems left with
 my GPOS generating script, and since I did not want to do any manual
 polishing (since that would disable the ability to run the script again), I
 ended up not releasing anything at all. But since what I have is a lot
 better than the current Culmus font, I guess that I should release it as
 is. Who is in charge of Culmus these days?


 Maxim is still the relevant person for any contributions for Culmus.
 He's CCed to this mail.

 Maxim,
 http://hamakor.org.il/pipermail/discussions/2012-January/003502.html is
 the context of this mail.

 Kaplan

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Re: Siddur for N900

2012-01-28 חוט Dov Grobgeld
Thanks for the info about updated Culmus font. It was a pleasent surprise.
I'll study it and perhaps it will make my autonikkud project irrelevant. I
just subscribed to the culmus list so that I won't miss any more
anouncements.

Regarding EzraSIL, I believe it is less feature rich than SBL. And besides,
I find it too loose with too much whitespace, which probably due to its
design goals of being a scholar font, which put more emphasis on all
diacritics being clearly visible.

Dov

On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 21:40, Ira Abramov i...@abramov.org wrote:

 Also check out this font, the license is pretty much GPL compatible, I
 think:
 http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsiid=EzraSIL_Home

 On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 19:42, Dov Grobgeld dov.grobg...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks. I have in the last few days returned to hacking on my automatic
 Nikkud opentype anchor inserter program that I started working on in 2006.
 Since then FontForge has got python bindings, so things are much easier
 these days.

 It turns out that for biblical hebrew with trop the placement rules are
 far from simple. Fortunately the logics of the placement has already been
 solved in the SBL font [
 http://www.sbl-site.org/educational/BiblicalFonts_SBLHebrew.aspx]. Even
 though the SBL font isn't totally free, I got the answer a few years back,
 that it is ok to copy the chained positions and substitution logics from
 it. That is my goal with the automatic nikkud insertion, to be able to
 bless (like perl ;-) a Hebrew font with full Diacritics logics.

 Shavua tov!
 Dov


 On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 19:09, Lior Kaplan kaplanl...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Dov Grobgeld 
 dov.grobg...@gmail.comwrote:

 The changes to Frank-Ruehl were part of a small project that I did a
 number of years ago, that used heuristics (same as in Pango) to build
 OpenType GPOS tables for any Hebrew font. I used CLM Frank-Reuhl as my test
 font for the scripts. I remember that there were a few problems left with
 my GPOS generating script, and since I did not want to do any manual
 polishing (since that would disable the ability to run the script again), I
 ended up not releasing anything at all. But since what I have is a lot
 better than the current Culmus font, I guess that I should release it as
 is. Who is in charge of Culmus these days?


 Maxim is still the relevant person for any contributions for Culmus.
 He's CCed to this mail.

 Maxim,
 http://hamakor.org.il/pipermail/discussions/2012-January/003502.html is
 the context of this mail.

 Kaplan



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