On 28 February 2013 00:46, Oscar Benjamin oscar.j.benja...@gmail.com wrote:
I apologise if I have misunderstood as I don't understand these things
that well. But as someone who uses mingw on Windows (when I am on
Windows) I have a question. What if I build with mingw on my computer
and then
On 28 February 2013 06:07, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 5:47 AM, Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com wrote:
It's certainly true that the ABI flags are incomplete (there's also
the whole stable ABI to consider).
The stable ABI is covered in PEP 425: the stable ABI
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 4:02 AM, Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com wrote:
On 28 February 2013 06:07, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 5:47 AM, Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com wrote:
It's certainly true that the ABI flags are incomplete (there's also
the whole stable
On 28 February 2013 13:36, Daniel Holth dho...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 4:02 AM, Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com wrote:
On 28 February 2013 06:07, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 5:47 AM, Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com wrote:
It's certainly true
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Daniel Holth dho...@gmail.com wrote:
My aim is to provide a hook mechanism that specifically does not say
anything about the way the cache is stored or even whether the hook
produces a
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:52 PM, Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com wrote:
On 28 February 2013 13:36, Daniel Holth dho...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 4:02 AM, Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com wrote:
On 28 February 2013 06:07, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Daniel Holth dho...@gmail.com wrote:
We will probably wind up with some JSON very much like that. I like
just exposing it as an ordered multidict with the same key names as
mentioned in the PEP.
A multidict is not really JSON-compatible - making sure there's an
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Daniel Holth dho...@gmail.com wrote:
We will probably wind up with some JSON very much like that. I like
just exposing it as an ordered multidict with the same key names as
mentioned in
OK, we don't generate anything like that for Windows at the moment,
then (where ABI is always none).
none means this wheel has no dependency on the ABI at all. If a
wheel includes C extensions and also has the ABI tag set to none, the
tool creating those wheels is broken (although it
Hey,
(I sent this to the wrong list and was directed here by Nick. I wasn't
aware of the very promising sounding PEP426 and haven't read it yet, so
apologies on that. Just wanted to resend my mail here ASAP to prevent
the discussion happening on the wrong list. Thanks!)
Generally speaking, when
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote:
Hey,
(I sent this to the wrong list and was directed here by Nick. I wasn't
aware of the very promising sounding PEP426 and haven't read it yet, so
apologies on that. Just wanted to resend my mail here ASAP to prevent
On Thursday, February 28, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
Hey,
(I sent this to the wrong list and was directed here by Nick. I wasn't
aware of the very promising sounding PEP426 and haven't read it yet, so
apologies on that. Just wanted to resend my mail here ASAP to prevent
the
On 28-02-13 16:39, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
Generally speaking, when a project has a large list of dependencies on
libraries outside of its control, it can take one of two approaches to
those dependencies:
1) specify the minimum required version of each library and assume new
releases of
yes, to what Reinout said.
also, I thought this post from one of your threads was good
http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-February/006103.html
if you want repeatable installs and testing throughout your release cycle,
you have to pin your whole dependency tree.
but in order
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:23 PM, PJ Eby p...@telecommunity.com wrote:
Indeed. I'm hoping that the new tools will make the old ones (e.g.
setuptools) entirely irrelevant, which is why I'm hammering so hard in
the PEP discussions on some use cases that eggs do well that wheels
don't. I don't
Paul Moore p.f.moore at gmail.com writes:
I'm confused here, because you're mixing up tags. I agree that the ABI
tag would have to be different. But cpXY is the *python* tag. Are you
saying that extensions for Python compiled with a different MSVCRT
should be considered as for a different
For some scripts I am writing, I want to be able to run a package's
setup.py using subprocess.check_call(). However, the python
installation I'm using may not have setuptools/distribute installed,
and yet I want to correctly process setup.py files which rely on
setuptools. Is there any way of
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com wrote:
For some scripts I am writing, I want to be able to run a package's
setup.py using subprocess.check_call(). However, the python
installation I'm using may not have setuptools/distribute installed,
and yet I want to
On 28 February 2013 20:30, Daniel Holth dho...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com wrote:
For some scripts I am writing, I want to be able to run a package's
setup.py using subprocess.check_call(). However, the python
installation I'm using may not
Sorry, I wasn't clear. I know about that, but I don't know how to set
up a site directory *before* starting the Python process. Thinking
about it, I guess I could do the addsitedir thing and then execfile
setup.py. Put all of that into a -c script. That's probably OK, just a
bit messy.
On 28 February 2013 20:53, Daniel Holth dho...@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry, I wasn't clear. I know about that, but I don't know how to set
up a site directory *before* starting the Python process. Thinking
about it, I guess I could do the addsitedir thing and then execfile
setup.py. Put all of that
OK, thanks!
On Feb 27, 2013, at 10:54 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:32 AM, Doug Hellmann doug.hellm...@gmail.com
wrote:
The Packaging Summit page [1] lists Friday evening but doesn't specify a
time or location, as far as I can tell. Have those been set, yet?
Doug
Paul Moore p.f.moore at gmail.com writes:
distribute for the setup.py run? I've tried setting PYTHONPATH, but
that doesn't seem to work
Here's what I tried. I set up the following work area:
.
├── pkg_resources.py - /path/to/distribute/pkg_resources.py
├── runit.py
├── setuptools -
On 28 February 2013 03:54, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
It's only a couple of hours, because my aim is mostly to encourage
information sharing through lightning talks about some of the key
projects involved in packaging and distribution, rather than making
any actual firm decisions
I'd love for at least some IRC chatter or notes as I can't make it to pycon
this year.
Particularly if there is activity during the sprints on this stuff so I can
contribute from home
Paul
On 28 February 2013 18:00, Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com wrote:
On 28 February 2013 03:54, Nick
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