Re: [Distutils] PEP 439 and pip bootstrap updated

2013-07-09 Thread Paul Moore
On 10 July 2013 05:19, Carl Meyer wrote: > > It's my understanding that people still install virtualenv in py3k. > > They certainly do today, but that's primarily because pyvenv isn't very > useful yet, since the stdlib has no installer and thus a newly-created > pyvenv has no way to install anyt

Re: [Distutils] PEP 439 and pip bootstrap updated

2013-07-09 Thread Richard Jones
On 10 July 2013 14:19, Carl Meyer wrote: > They certainly do today, but that's primarily because pyvenv isn't very > useful yet, since the stdlib has no installer and thus a newly-created > pyvenv has no way to install anything in it. Ah, thanks for clarifying that. > Certainly if the bootstrap

Re: [Distutils] PEP 439 and pip bootstrap updated

2013-07-09 Thread Carl Meyer
Hi Richard, On 07/09/2013 09:47 PM, Richard Jones wrote: > On 10 July 2013 13:20, Donald Stufft wrote: >> On Jul 9, 2013, at 11:16 PM, Richard Jones wrote: >> Firstly, I've just made some additional changes to PEP 439 to include: >> >> - installing virtualenv as well (so now pip, setuptools and

Re: [Distutils] PEP 439 and pip bootstrap updated

2013-07-09 Thread Donald Stufft
On Jul 10, 2013, at 12:37 AM, Richard Jones wrote: > On 10 July 2013 14:18, Donald Stufft wrote: >> On Jul 9, 2013, at 11:47 PM, Richard Jones wrote: >>> On 10 July 2013 13:20, Donald Stufft wrote: On Jul 9, 2013, at 11:16 PM, Richard Jones wrote: Firstly, I've just made some addit

Re: [Distutils] PEP 439 and pip bootstrap updated

2013-07-09 Thread Richard Jones
On 10 July 2013 14:18, Donald Stufft wrote: > On Jul 9, 2013, at 11:47 PM, Richard Jones wrote: >> On 10 July 2013 13:20, Donald Stufft wrote: >>> On Jul 9, 2013, at 11:16 PM, Richard Jones wrote: >>> Firstly, I've just made some additional changes to PEP 439 to include: >>> >>> - installing vi

Re: [Distutils] PEP 439 and pip bootstrap updated

2013-07-09 Thread Donald Stufft
On Jul 9, 2013, at 11:47 PM, Richard Jones wrote: > On 10 July 2013 13:20, Donald Stufft wrote: >> On Jul 9, 2013, at 11:16 PM, Richard Jones wrote: >> Firstly, I've just made some additional changes to PEP 439 to include: >> >> - installing virtualenv as well (so now pip, setuptools and virt

Re: [Distutils] PEP 439 and pip bootstrap updated

2013-07-09 Thread Richard Jones
On 10 July 2013 13:20, Donald Stufft wrote: > On Jul 9, 2013, at 11:16 PM, Richard Jones wrote: > Firstly, I've just made some additional changes to PEP 439 to include: > > - installing virtualenv as well (so now pip, setuptools and virtualenv are > installed) > > > doesn't "PyEnv" which is bund

Re: [Distutils] PEP 439 and pip bootstrap updated

2013-07-09 Thread Donald Stufft
On Jul 9, 2013, at 11:16 PM, Richard Jones wrote: > [firstly, my apologies for posting the announcement yesterday of the pip > bootstrap implementation and PEP updates to the pypa-dev list instead of > distutils-sig... I blame PyCon AU exhaustion :-)] > > Firstly, I've just made some addition

[Distutils] PEP 439 and pip bootstrap updated

2013-07-09 Thread Richard Jones
[firstly, my apologies for posting the announcement yesterday of the pip bootstrap implementation and PEP updates to the pypa-dev list instead of distutils-sig... I blame PyCon AU exhaustion :-)] Firstly, I've just made some additional changes to PEP 439 to include: - installing virtualenv as wel