Re: [Distutils] What's special about numpy, scipy, ...was: Remove distutils, was: red, green, refactor ...

Am 26.10.2015 um 20:07 schrieb Nathaniel Smith: > On Oct 26, 2015 6:59 AM, "Wayne Werner" > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Chris Barker > wrote: > >> > >> On Thu,

Re: [Distutils] wacky idea about reifying extras

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:41 PM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 4:41 AM, Donald Stufft wrote: > > On October 26, 2015 at 3:36:47 AM, Nathaniel Smith (n...@pobox.com) > wrote: > >> > TL;DR > >> - > >> > >> If we: > >> > >> - implement a

Re: [Distutils] Second draft of a plan for a new source tree / sdist format

On 26 October 2015 at 06:04, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > Here's a second round of text towards making a build-system > independent interface between pip and source trees/sdists. My idea > this time is to take a divide-and-conquer approach: this text tries to > summarize all the stuff

Re: [Distutils] wacky idea about reifying extras

On 27 October 2015 at 21:47, David Cournapeau wrote: > Another simple solution for this particular case is to add conflict rules > between packages that provide the same requirement (that's what php's > composer do IIRC). > > The case of safety against malicious forks is

Re: [Distutils] Second draft of a plan for a new source tree / sdist format

The drawback of .zip is file size since it compresses each file individually rather than giving the compression algorithm a larger input, it's a great format otherwise. Ubiquitous including Apple iOS packages, Java, word processor file formats. And most Python packages are small. We must do the

[Distutils] (no subject)

Thanks to Nick Coghlan and Barry Warsaw we've setup a new SIG dedicated to discussing python features from different distributions point of view. Here is Nick's reasoning: > With the Python 3 migration, and the growth in interest in user level > package management for development purposes, what

Re: [Distutils] build system abstraction PEP

It looks like you would normally be able to say just 'flit' in the bootstrap-requires or provided-by, unless the requirements were for build code bundled inside the sdist. On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 1:07 AM Robert Collins wrote: > On 27 October 2015 at 14:06, Robert

Re: [Distutils] Time for a setuptools_lite??

Mr. grumpy pants, Now you're trolling us by describing flit. Older versions of pip could be able to install it, just add a setup.py shim. Nearly trivial. A new simple build system could come with the agile build system support. It's just a matter of timing. On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 9:49 PM

Re: [Distutils] Second draft of a plan for a new source tree / sdist format

On 27 October 2015 at 13:12, Daniel Holth wrote: > We must do the hard work to support Unicode file names, and spaces and > accent marks in home directory names (historically a problem on Windows), in > our packaging system. It is the right thing to do. It is not the publisher's

Re: [Distutils] wacky idea about reifying extras

On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 at 02:17 Robert Collins wrote: > On 27 October 2015 at 21:47, David Cournapeau wrote: > > > Another simple solution for this particular case is to add conflict rules > > between packages that provide the same requirement (that's

Re: [Distutils] build system abstraction PEP

On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 11:01 PM, Robert Collins wrote: > Since Nathaniel seems busy, I've taken the liberty of drafting a > narrow PEP based on the conversations that arose from the prior > discussion. > > It (naturally) has my unique flavor, but builds on the work

Re: [Distutils] build system abstraction PEP

> > > Current draft text in rendered form at: > https://gist.github.com/rbtcollins/666c12aec869237f7cf7 > > Thanks for working on this. Overall I like the idea, but have some comments/questions 1) *Please*, *please*, *please* let's start doing PEP conversations as PRs to

[Distutils] Please don't impose additional barriers to participation (was: build system abstraction PEP)

Marcus Smith writes: > 1) *Please*, *please*, *please* let's start doing PEP conversations as > PRs to pypa/interoperability-peps : ) Please keep the conversation on a mailing list where one can participate without needing to sign up with any particular service provider. Your

Re: [Distutils] build system abstraction PEP

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:03 AM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 11:01 PM, Robert Collins > wrote: > > Since Nathaniel seems busy, I've taken the liberty of drafting a > > narrow PEP based on the conversations that arose from the prior

Re: [Distutils] Second draft of a plan for a new source tree / sdist format

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Daniel Holth wrote: > The drawback of .zip is file size since it compresses each file > individually rather than giving the compression algorithm a larger input, > it's a great format otherwise. Ubiquitous including Apple iOS packages, > Java,