Re: [Distutils] Module Installation Issues

2016-09-14 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 15 September 2016 at 01:31, Paul Moore wrote: > On 13 September 2016 at 23:55, Donald Stufft wrote: >> Perhaps a better idea would be to add some smarts to the REPL (but not to >> Python itself) that would detect something like: >> > pip install >>

Re: [Distutils] Module Installation Issues

2016-09-14 Thread Thomas Kluyver
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016, at 04:31 PM, Paul Moore wrote: > Of course, it doesn't solve the problem of a user who doesn't know > what a "shell prompt" is... Especially since the interactive Python interpreter is also a shell prompt. The title of an IDLE window on my system is "Python 3.5.2 Shell" ;-).

Re: [Distutils] Module Installation Issues

2016-09-14 Thread Paul Moore
On 13 September 2016 at 23:55, Donald Stufft wrote: > Perhaps a better idea would be to add some smarts to the REPL (but not to > Python itself) that would detect something like: > pip install > > And print a better error message that gives a better indication about what’s

Re: [Distutils] Module Installation Issues

2016-09-14 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 14 September 2016 at 22:27, Marius Gedminas wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 06:55:49PM -0400, Donald Stufft wrote: >> >>> pip install >> >> And print a better error message that gives a better indication about what’s >> gone wrong besides a SyntaxError? > > This way you

Re: [Distutils] Module Installation Issues

2016-09-14 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 06:55:49PM -0400, Donald Stufft wrote: > >>> pip install > > And print a better error message that gives a better indication about what’s > gone wrong besides a SyntaxError? This way you could also make >>> exit work like people expect it to work, without the ().

Re: [Distutils] Module Installation Issues

2016-09-14 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 14 September 2016 at 21:43, Donald Stufft wrote: > >> On Sep 13, 2016, at 7:06 PM, Steve Dower wrote: >> >> This is exactly the argument I was expecting when I said "those who want it >> to be perfect in every scenario" > > FWIW I don’t have a strong

Re: [Distutils] Module Installation Issues

2016-09-14 Thread Donald Stufft
> On Sep 13, 2016, at 7:06 PM, Steve Dower wrote: > > This is exactly the argument I was expecting when I said "those who want it > to be perfect in every scenario" FWIW I don’t have a strong feeling on whether we should add it or not. I haven’t been a beginner in a

Re: [Distutils] Module Installation Issues

2016-09-14 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 14 September 2016 at 18:02, Paul Moore wrote: > On 13 September 2016 at 23:55, Donald Stufft wrote: >> The 90% case works when it’s *only* pure python and there’s no >> upgrading/downgrading involved, however you can’t control whether there are >>

Re: [Distutils] Buoldout2 e setup.py: install_requires ignored

2016-09-14 Thread Alessandro Dentella
Hi Leonardo, On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 05:48:33PM -0300, Leonardo Rochael Almeida wrote: > Hi Sandro, > > I don't know what your previous setup did, but in your current setup, your > `buildout.cfg` is not configured to take your `setup.py` into account in > any way. > > In the `eggs` setting, only

Re: [Distutils] Module Installation Issues

2016-09-14 Thread Paul Moore
On 13 September 2016 at 23:55, Donald Stufft wrote: > The 90% case works when it’s *only* pure python and there’s no > upgrading/downgrading involved, however you can’t control whether there are > going to be upgrades/downgrades or not when dependencies are in play because >