[Distutils] Re: Oct 27-28: Bloomberg sponsoring packaging sprint

2018-09-10 Thread Dustin Ingram
Hi everyone! Bloomberg is hoping to sponsor one more mentor to attend in both NYC and London, please reach out to me directly if you are interested! D. On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:16 AM Dustin Ingram wrote: > > Hi folks! This event is happening in about two months. > > You can find more details an

[Distutils] Re: Should an sdist/MANIFEST.in include docs and tests?

2018-09-10 Thread Thomas Kluyver
On Mon, Sep 10, 2018, at 1:06 PM, Ian Stapleton Cordasco wrote: > It seems silly that we're not also considering the portions of the > world with terrible internet when making this decision. Giant sdists > make their lives orders of magnitude worse for the benefit of maybe > 20-30 people who tend t

[Distutils] Re: PEP 518 and the pyproject.toml format

2018-09-10 Thread Paul Moore
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 at 13:12, Melvyn Sopacua wrote: > > > You say "a project (not a library)". I presume by that you mean > > something like the application building process I described above? > > Ok, so there's the first confusion. My use of project is fostered first and > foremost by django's "s

[Distutils] Re: PEP 518 and the pyproject.toml format

2018-09-10 Thread Melvyn Sopacua
On maandag 10 september 2018 12:47:16 CEST Paul Moore wrote: > On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 at 10:13, Melvyn Sopacua wrote: > > First post, so short introduction: > Hi, and welcome. > > > I'm mostly working on Django projects, currently for 3yourminD in Berlin. > > Working with python / Django for 6 going

[Distutils] Re: Should an sdist/MANIFEST.in include docs and tests?

2018-09-10 Thread Ian Stapleton Cordasco
And yet reality is that many downstreams can't rely on an sdist to include that because it is an installable format. Not everything does include those files. I tend to view an sdist as a similar format to wheels. I've been bullied into including the tests and docs on occasion, but that has never ac

[Distutils] Re: PEP 518 and the pyproject.toml format

2018-09-10 Thread Tzu-ping Chung
One minor clarification—Poetry os both an application and a library packaging tool. It however relies on the old, non-isolated Setuptools approach to do the building part under the hood, so (from my own understanding) Poetry ≒ Pipenv + Flit - PEP 517 - PEP 518 Whether this is a good approac

[Distutils] Re: PEP 518 and the pyproject.toml format

2018-09-10 Thread Paul Moore
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 at 10:13, Melvyn Sopacua wrote: > First post, so short introduction: Hi, and welcome. > I'm mostly working on Django projects, currently for 3yourminD in Berlin. > Working with python / Django for 6 going on 7 years. Also experienced in PHP, > some Js and build systems like

[Distutils] Re: Should an sdist/MANIFEST.in include docs and tests?

2018-09-10 Thread Freddy Rietdijk
As a Nixpkgs Python maintainer I often ask projects to include their tests in the sdist so we can run them when packaging. I prefer it also when an sdist basically represents a snapshot of a repository. On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 8:08 AM, Thomas Kluyver wrote: > On Mon, Sep 10, 2018, at 12:33 AM, B

[Distutils] PEP 518 and the pyproject.toml format

2018-09-10 Thread Melvyn Sopacua
Hello, First post, so short introduction: I'm mostly working on Django projects, currently for 3yourminD in Berlin. Working with python / Django for 6 going on 7 years. Also experienced in PHP, some Js and build systems like docker. We're currently migrating everything to docker and pip / requir