[Distutils] providing a way for pip to communicate extra info to users

2018-04-09 Thread Chris Jerdonek
On the pypa-dev Google group, a suggestion was raised about giving pip
a way to communicate extra info to users.

This was during a thread started by Matthew Brett about pip breaking
for certain macOS users due to certain TLS changes ("Impending silent
breakage of pip / macOS likely to cause severe confusion"). Donald
said this behavior is governed by PEP 503 and that the topic was best
discussed on distutils-sig:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/pypa-dev/Oz6SGA7gefo/RRXQBQSBBAAJ
so I'm raising the suggestion here to continue the discussion.

One of Donald's comments in response to the idea (and that occurred to
me too and that I agree with) is that providing a way to communicate
messages to users introduces another possible avenue for attack.

A possible middle-ground could be to hard-code a message in pip. Pip
could display the message in certain circumstances, e.g. in response
to certain types of failures. For example, the message could tell
users to check a certain URL maintained by PyPA for further
information / possible announcements.

What do people think?

--Chris
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Re: [Distutils] Renaming this list to python-packaging

2018-04-09 Thread Barry Warsaw

Donald Stufft wrote:

I don’t think we can rename a mailing list easily, we can create a new one and 
archive the old one but that has a lot of churn and breaks people’s filters, 
etc.


Although it should be easier to rename if the list is migrated to 
Mailman 3 first.  Please contact postmaster@p.o if you want to go that 
route.


-Barry


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