[Distutils] should setuptools be an implicit dependency of every egg?

2006-09-19 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, Normally setuptools is installed system-wide. When you install an egg using easy_install, the egg itself can count on setuptools being available, and use for instance its resource management API and namespace package marking facility. It therefore is unnecessary to users to mark

Re: [Distutils] should setuptools be an implicit dependency of every egg?

2006-09-19 Thread Bob Ippolito
On 9/19/06, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Normally setuptools is installed system-wide. When you install an egg using easy_install, the egg itself can count on setuptools being available, and use for instance its resource management API and namespace package marking facility. It

Re: [Distutils] should setuptools be an implicit dependency of every egg?

2006-09-19 Thread Jim Fulton
On Sep 19, 2006, at 5:43 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote: Hi there, Normally setuptools is installed system-wide. When you install an egg using easy_install, the egg itself can count on setuptools being available, and use for instance its resource management API and namespace package marking

Re: [Distutils] setuptools: egg traceback seems not very informative

2006-09-19 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 03:10 PM 9/19/2006 +1000, John Machin wrote: Hello all, Example below, with distutils setup of same package under Python 2.5 for comparison. Two problems: (1) Path of source file is part only of the path from the *development* machine and gives no clue as to where the egg is located on the

[Distutils] Sourceforge mirrors, again

2006-09-19 Thread Phillip J. Eby
Well, it looks like Sourceforge has found yet another way to mess with easy_install's ability to download from their mirrors. :( Specifically, they are not keeping the dl.sourceforge.net A list up-to-date, so easy_install's attempts to just use simple round-robin DNS aren't always working.

Re: [Distutils] should setuptools be an implicit dependency of every egg?

2006-09-19 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote: These downsides are, in practice, pretty minor. My main objection is that I don't like encouraging people to be sloppy about dependencies. The counter argument, of course, is that the standard library is an implicit

Re: [Distutils] easy_install doesn't recognize valid distutils Windows installers

2006-09-19 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 02:59 PM 9/19/2006 -0400, Matt Good wrote: On Windows easy_install trac fails with the error: trac-0.10b1.win32.exe is not a valid distutils Windows .exe http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/3750 The problem is with easy_install locating the config information embedded in the file. The following

Re: [Distutils] Sourceforge mirrors, again

2006-09-19 Thread Eric S. Johansson
Phillip J. Eby wrote: Anybody have any thoughts on this? I wrote a bit of code for my raging dormouse downloader which follows links on the sourceforge pages until you get to the real data. would that be helpful? ---eric ___ Distutils-SIG

Re: [Distutils] Sourceforge mirrors, again

2006-09-19 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Sep 19, 2006, at 11:51 AM, Phillip J. Eby wrote: Well, it looks like Sourceforge has found yet another way to mess with easy_install's ability to download from their mirrors. : ( Specifically, they are not keeping the dl.sourceforge.net A list up-to-date, so easy_install's attempts to

Re: [Distutils] Sourceforge mirrors, again

2006-09-19 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 04:49 PM 9/19/2006 -0400, Kevin Dangoor wrote: On Sep 19, 2006, at 11:51 AM, Phillip J. Eby wrote: Well, it looks like Sourceforge has found yet another way to mess with easy_install's ability to download from their mirrors. : ( Specifically, they are not keeping the