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My main motivation in proposing it is to give the user complete
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is not easy to do on Debian/Ubuntu at the moment
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I don't understand what you mean here. How do packages get into
the system location if they're not installed there at some time?
What, specifically, do you hope people don't do?
I meant installing packages from sources
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That's what the Debian packaging system would do when installing a
Python package. What would you have different?
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What of distributions installed via setuptools that are *not*
installed as eggs?
I don't know. Can you tell me more about that?
It's rather unfortunate that the term “egg” has been used to mean
two rather different things
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Perhaps 'setup_config.py'? Something that makes it clear that the
configuration is intended for the setup and installation, *not*
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Given the inertia on both sides of this terminological schism, and
the fact that these concepts are not exactly things that an
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I think you've not only simplified, you've done so in the wrong
direction. I'd say instead that “datadir” is for
*non-executable* files, and “libdir” for executable.
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Phillip J. Eby p...@telecommunity.com writes:
Meanwhile, the 'register' command accepts Unicode, but is broken in
handling it. […]
Unfortunately, this isn't fixable until there's a new 2.5.x release.
For previous Python versions, both
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Is there an open bug tracker issue with more information?
Answer: URL:http://bugs.python.org/issue2562. Apparently the issue
is resolved URL:http://bugs.python.org/msg72385 for Python 2.6. I
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Okay, but that's a far cry from saying that it “doesn't make
sense” to use the VCS inventory.
Not that a far cry: python packaging tools are the only systems that
I know of which does this. For example, in autotools
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An sdist is *not* just a tarball of the source files.
It is if you consider any non-tracked file to be an anti-usecase,
No. In *no case* is an sdist equal to a tarball of the source files.
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Those breakages seem to be caused in part because the module
containing version information is doing too much.
The only thing the version module does is define
that “standard Python” would need to
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Those that do specify are *much* more obvious and simple in their
comparison of individual components than what is currently in the
‘distutilsversion’ specification. Usually it's a simple case of “once
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Note that the specification I propose allows any alphanumeric
character [0-9A-Za-z], so you could also make the version string
‘8.2.0.r27002’ if you want the “revision number” component to be
visibly different while still having an obvious
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If the version comparison semantics are such that simple “compare
non-digits per ASCII, compare digit sequences as integers” works
within a component, I'm not aware of any distribution downstream
that can't just use them as-is. What
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Well then, I don't see a way forward on the issue of helping
distributors to manage version numbers sanely. I don't know of any
operating system package manager that returns
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Any of “Red Barrel” or “distutils” or countless other names would be
better in this regard.
s/distutils/disttools/ of course (which demonstrates perhaps a reason
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