On 13 February 2018 at 20:07, Chris Jerdonek wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:59 AM, Robin Becker wrote:
>> I am a bit confused about the meaning of 'backfilling'. Does it mean that a
>> particular manylinux will evolve in time so an early manylinux2010 wheel
>> will differ from a later one?
>
On 13/02/2018 10:07, Chris Jerdonek wrote:
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:59 AM, Robin Becker wrote:
I am a bit confused about the meaning of 'backfilling'. Does it mean that a
particular manylinux will evolve in time so an early manylinux2010 wheel
will differ from a later one?
I think it just me
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:59 AM, Robin Becker wrote:
> I am a bit confused about the meaning of 'backfilling'. Does it mean that a
> particular manylinux will evolve in time so an early manylinux2010 wheel
> will differ from a later one?
I think it just means that, say, manylinux2008 could be rel
I am a bit confused about the meaning of 'backfilling'. Does it mean that a particular manylinux will evolve in time so an early
manylinux2010 wheel will differ from a later one?
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On 12 February 2018 at 07:34, Matthew Brett wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 7:53 AM, Alex Walters wrote:
>> "There is a tool that can make software run on a lot of different computers,
>> but only if you build it for an ancient computer. The tool is a little
>> complicated - you have to learn h
On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 7:53 AM, Alex Walters wrote:
> Just out of curiosity, I did a little experiment. I explained this thread
> to my mother. My mother is a wonderful woman, but she wouldn't know a byte
> from a bite. I explained it as follows:
>
> "There is a tool that can make software run
ehalf Of Nick Coghlan
> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 7:15 AM
> To: Mark Williams
> Cc: Geoffrey Thomas ; DistUtils mailing list
> ; Mark Williams
> Subject: Re: [Distutils] draft PEP: manylinux2
>
> On 10 February 2018 at 16:03, Mark Williams
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb
On 10 February 2018 at 16:03, Mark Williams wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 05:55:36PM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote:
>> By contrast, year-based CalVer maintains distro-neutrality, while also
>> giving a good sense of the maximum age of compatible target platforms.
>> (e.g. given "manylinux2010", it'
On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 05:55:36PM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> The CalVer idea first came up in the context of skipping ahead in the
> numbering sequence to go straight to a baseline that supported ppc64le
> and/or aarch64. Even 2014 would likely be too old for that, since
> CentOS 7 didn't suppor
On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 03:17:55PM -0600, Jonathan Helmus wrote:
> On 02/03/2018 02:11 AM, Nathaniel Smith wrote:
> > > Docker Images
> > > -
> > >
> > > ``manylinux2`` Docker images based on CentOS 6.9 x86_64 and i686 are
> > > provided for building binary ``linux`` wheels that can re
On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 08:51:03PM -0800, Mark Williams wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 03, 2018 at 12:11:51AM -0800, Nathaniel Smith wrote:
> >
> > We can and should use newer compiler versions than that, and probably
> > upgrade them again over the course of the image's lifespan, so let's
> > just drop the
On Wed, Feb 07, 2018 at 08:41:06PM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote:
>
> Hmm, that question prompted me to notice a flaw in the current wording
> of
> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0571/#platform-detection-for-installers.
>
> The way that's currently worded suggests that
> "bool(_manylinux.manylin
On 7 February 2018 at 19:58, Robin Becker wrote:
> On 07/02/2018 05:21, Alex Walters wrote:
>> This is a really good point. Since pip is the main interface to packages
>> for end users anyways, we can call it manylinux8675309 and it wouldn't
>> really matter to users - the name only really matter
On 07/02/2018 05:21, Alex Walters wrote:
...
This is a really good point. Since pip is the main interface to packages
for end users anyways, we can call it manylinux8675309 and it wouldn't
really matter to users - the name only really matters to package
maintainers, not users. And be
On 7 February 2018 at 15:21, Alex Walters wrote:
> This is a really good point. Since pip is the main interface to packages
> for end users anyways, we can call it manylinux8675309 and it wouldn't
> really matter to users - the name only really matters to package
> maintainers, not users. And be
-Original Message-
From: Alex Walters [mailto:tritium-l...@sdamon.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 12:21 AM
To: 'Janzert'
Subject: RE: [Distutils] draft PEP: manylinux2
> -Original Message-
> From: Distutils-SIG [mailto:distutils-sig-bounces+tritiu
On 2/5/2018 16:01, Nick Coghlan wrote:
Compare:
- manylinux1 vs manylinux2 vs manylinux3
- manylinux2007 vs manylinux2010 vs manylinux2014
I'll leave this just as a data point (anecdote) from someone that isn't
heavily involved with linux sysadmin or python packaging. Feel free to
make of i
On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 10:01 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> On 6 February 2018 at 00:35, Joni Orponen wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:51 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> >>
> >> As an illustrative example, manylinux1 was essentially manylinux2007,
> >> and it's now running into problems precisely becau
On 6 February 2018 at 17:55, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> On 6 February 2018 at 16:05, Mark Williams wrote:
>> If I may, a quick question about procedure: do I continue to included
>> updates to the PEP in my responses here? Or do I link to my branch on
>> GitHub?
>
> Ah, thanks for the reminder - I'll
On 6 February 2018 at 16:05, Mark Williams wrote:
> As a counter point: presumably a `manylinux` standard that supports
> those architectures will require a PEP, in which case the author(s)
> will have read the preceding `manylinx` PEPs, either to actively
> borrow as much as possible or to unders
On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:17 PM, Jonathan Helmus wrote:
> Moving to GCC 5 and above will introduced the new libstd++ ABI. [1] The
> manylinux2 standard need to define which ABI compiled libraries should be
> compiled against as older version of libstdc++ will not support the new ABI.
> From what
On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 12:15:50PM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote:
>
> Thanks for this!
>
> Something we've discussed in the past is switching manylinux over to a
> variant of CalVer, where the manylinux version number inherently
> conveys the era of operating system compatibility that each variant is
On Sat, Feb 03, 2018 at 12:11:51AM -0800, Nathaniel Smith wrote:
>
> Huzzah! This is an amazing bit of work, and I'm glad you got that
> weird email problem sorted out :-).
Me too! I'd rather deal with Linux ABI fussiness than email any day
of the week.
> >ABI. *[Citation for UCS ABI tags?]*
On 02/03/2018 02:11 AM, Nathaniel Smith wrote:
Docker Images
-
``manylinux2`` Docker images based on CentOS 6.9 x86_64 and i686 are
provided for building binary ``linux`` wheels that can reliably be
converted to ``manylinux2`` wheels. [8]_ These images come with a
full compiler suit
On 6 February 2018 at 00:38, Ivan Pozdeev wrote:
> On 05.02.2018 16:51, Nick Coghlan wrote:
>> Or, we can just put the year directly in the version number, so that
>> publishers can go "I'm happy to target manylinux2010, because I'm fine
>> with users of distros that are more than 7 years old need
On 6 February 2018 at 00:35, Joni Orponen wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:51 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
>>
>> As an illustrative example, manylinux1 was essentially manylinux2007,
>> and it's now running into problems precisely because that baseline is
>> more than a decade old. That's not obvious
On Mon, Feb 5, 2018, at 2:38 PM, Ivan Pozdeev via Distutils-SIG wrote:
> The point is, a year has negative informativity in this case.
>
> The very reasoning "compatible with most distributions released since
> year " is flawed 'cuz it's vague and nonintuitive. Which is "most"
> distributions? W
On 05.02.2018 16:51, Nick Coghlan wrote:
On 5 February 2018 at 18:03, Ivan Pozdeev via Distutils-SIG
wrote:
On 05.02.2018 5:15, Nick Coghlan wrote:
The intended benefit of that is that it would allow folks to go ahead
and propose newer manylinux variants that allow for ppc64le and
aarch64 supp
On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:51 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> As an illustrative example, manylinux1 was essentially manylinux2007,
> and it's now running into problems precisely because that baseline is
> more than a decade old. That's not obvious if all you know is the
> sequential number "1", but it m
On 5 February 2018 at 18:03, Ivan Pozdeev via Distutils-SIG
wrote:
> On 05.02.2018 5:15, Nick Coghlan wrote:
>> The intended benefit of that is that it would allow folks to go ahead
>> and propose newer manylinux variants that allow for ppc64le and
>> aarch64 support as needed, without having to g
On 05.02.2018 5:15, Nick Coghlan wrote:
On 1 February 2018 at 10:01, Mark Williams wrote:
Hi everyone!
The manylinux1 platform tag has been tremendously useful, but unfortunately
it's showing its age:
https://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2017-April/030360.html
https://mail.python.
On 1 February 2018 at 10:01, Mark Williams wrote:
> Hi everyone!
>
> The manylinux1 platform tag has been tremendously useful, but unfortunately
> it's showing its age:
>
> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2017-April/030360.html
> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/wheel-builders/20
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 4:01 PM, Mark Williams wrote:
> Hi everyone!
>
> The manylinux1 platform tag has been tremendously useful, but unfortunately
> it's showing its age:
>
> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2017-April/030360.html
> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/wheel-builder
Hi everyone!
The manylinux1 platform tag has been tremendously useful, but unfortunately
it's showing its age:
https://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2017-April/030360.html
https://mail.python.org/pipermail/wheel-builders/2016-December/000239.html
Nathaniel identified a list of things
Hi everyone!
The manylinux1 platform tag has been tremendously useful, but unfortunately
it's showing its age:
https://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2017-April/030360.html
https://mail.python.org/pipermail/wheel-builders/2016-December/000239.html
Nathaniel identified a list of things
Hi everyone!
The manylinux1 platform tag has been tremendously useful, but unfortunately
it's showing its age:
https://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2017-April/030360.html
https://mail.python.org/pipermail/wheel-builders/2016-December/000239.html
Nathaniel identified a list of things
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