Re: [diversity-talk] The recent unpleasantness

2014-12-04 Thread Randal Hale
and you are correct - I shouldn't have went asshole. I will apologize for using the word. I'm 2000% good with moderation or a ban. I'm happy with it because I did something to hopefully stop the silliness that a percentage of the users exhibit up here. I hope the COC causes some people to

Re: [diversity-talk] The recent unpleasantness

2014-12-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Darrell, without going into the specifics of this case, there's one bit in your message that had a bad taste for me. What you have essentially done is elevate Serge's message to almost extreme violation status because you've decided to sanction immediately, rather than just going through the

Re: [diversity-talk] The recent unpleasantness

2014-12-02 Thread Paul Norman
On 12/2/2014 3:22 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Your justification for this seems to be behaviour outside of this list and/or, and this is the bit I take particular offense with, The private responses to me have generally expressed that is part of a pattern of behavior, and not an isolated incident.

Re: [diversity-talk] The recent unpleasantness

2014-12-02 Thread Jo Walsh
+1 what Frederik said. Thanks, saved me some typing there. We seem to have calmed down, I thought Mele had some very helpful advice. We can all help to drag up the baseline of civility after this painfully illustrative incident. To me this looks like a pre-emptive attempt at a decision which

Re: [diversity-talk] The recent unpleasantness

2014-12-02 Thread Paul Norman
On 12/2/2014 5:04 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: Am I to understand that felt Serge's comments were acceptable behavior? I was expecting to find that you at least didn't condone it. but sadly no where did you say Serge's comments were unacceptable. No where did I say that his comments were acceptable