Re: [Django] #35137: Collapsible error container elements do not indicate that they are interactive

2024-05-04 Thread Django
#35137: Collapsible error container elements do not indicate that they are
interactive
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 Reporter:  Denis Anuschewski|Owner:  Abhijeet
 Type:   |  Singh
  Cleanup/optimization   |   Status:  assigned
Component:  Error reporting  |  Version:  dev
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:  Accepted
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Easy pickings:  0|UI/UX:  1
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Comment (by Abhijeet Singh):

 Hay! I just opened a Discord Thred to discuss the Patch Improvement, I
 would appreciate if you checked it out
 (https://discordapp.com/channels/856567261900832808/1236418777323671633)
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Re: [Django] #35137: Collapsible error container elements do not indicate that they are interactive

2024-04-24 Thread Django
#35137: Collapsible error container elements do not indicate that they are
interactive
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 Reporter:  Denis Anuschewski|Owner:  Abhijeet
 Type:   |  Singh
  Cleanup/optimization   |   Status:  assigned
Component:  Error reporting  |  Version:  dev
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:  Accepted
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Changes (by Sarah Boyce):

 * needs_better_patch:  0 => 1
 * needs_tests:  0 => 1

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Re: [Django] #35137: Collapsible error container elements do not indicate that they are interactive

2024-04-08 Thread Django
#35137: Collapsible error container elements do not indicate that they are
interactive
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 Reporter:  Denis Anuschewski|Owner:  Abhijeet
 Type:   |  Singh
  Cleanup/optimization   |   Status:  assigned
Component:  Error reporting  |  Version:  dev
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:  Accepted
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Comment (by Sarah Boyce):

 Note that #35189 also deals with collapsible elements and accessibility
 concerns might be similar both (and might make sense to be reviewed
 together).
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Re: [Django] #35137: Collapsible error container elements do not indicate that they are interactive

2024-01-25 Thread Django
#35137: Collapsible error container elements do not indicate that they are
interactive
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 Reporter:  Denis Anuschewski |Owner:  nobody
 Type:  Cleanup/optimization  |   Status:  new
Component:  Error reporting   |  Version:  dev
 Severity:  Normal|   Resolution:
 Keywords:| Triage Stage:  Accepted
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Easy pickings:  0 |UI/UX:  1
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Comment (by Denis Anuschewski):

 Another suggestion for a simple solution:

 Adapt the icon for the collapsible link "Local vars" just under the gray
 error box (placed on the left of the line number just like Thibaud
 mentioned).
 Plus implement a thin border to let the box stand out more.
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Re: [Django] #35137: Collapsible error container elements do not indicate that they are interactive

2024-01-25 Thread Django
#35137: Collapsible error container elements do not indicate that they are
interactive
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 Reporter:  Denis Anuschewski |Owner:  nobody
 Type:  Cleanup/optimization  |   Status:  new
Component:  Error reporting   |  Version:  dev
 Severity:  Normal|   Resolution:
 Keywords:| Triage Stage:  Accepted
Has patch:  0 |  Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0 |  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0 |UI/UX:  1
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Comment (by Thibaud Colas):

 Note there are three separate issues here:

 1. Bug: the current implementation is unusable for keyboard and voice
 control users due to adding interactivity to list item elements.
 2. Somewhere between a bug and a usability fail: placing the "this is
 collapsible" signifier all the way to the right means it’s more or less
 impossible to spot for users of screen magnification
 3. And usability issue – it’s hard to understand this is interactive.

 I’d recommend fixing them all at once by introducing a "toggle" button to
 the left of the line number, so we can solve the issue at hand without
 reinventing the current designs. That button will be focusable and can
 either have a visible "toggle" label or icon + tooltip, plus hover styles
 (see for example
 
[https://github.com/django/django/commit/3f6d939c62efd967f548c27a265748cc2cc47ca5
 how GitHub does it]).
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Re: [Django] #35137: Collapsible error container elements do not indicate that they are interactive

2024-01-23 Thread Django
#35137: Collapsible error container elements do not indicate that they are
interactive
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 Reporter:  Denis Anuschewski |Owner:  nobody
 Type:  Cleanup/optimization  |   Status:  new
Component:  Error reporting   |  Version:  dev
 Severity:  Normal|   Resolution:
 Keywords:| Triage Stage:  Accepted
Has patch:  0 |  Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0 |  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0 |UI/UX:  1
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Comment (by Denis Anuschewski):

 https://forum.djangoproject.com/t/usability-of-server-error-traceback-
 collapsibles/27322

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Re: [Django] #35137: Collapsible error container elements do not indicate that they are interactive

2024-01-23 Thread Django
#35137: Collapsible error container elements do not indicate that they are
interactive
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 Reporter:  Denis Anuschewski |Owner:  nobody
 Type:  Cleanup/optimization  |   Status:  new
Component:  Error reporting   |  Version:  dev
 Severity:  Normal|   Resolution:
 Keywords:| Triage Stage:  Accepted
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Easy pickings:  0 |UI/UX:  1
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Comment (by Denis Anuschewski):

 Hey Natalia.

 Thx, will do that.

 Shout out to Thibaud Colas who 1st found this behaviour.

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Re: [Django] #35137: Collapsible error container elements do not indicate that they are interactive

2024-01-23 Thread Django
#35137: Collapsible error container elements do not indicate that they are
interactive
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 Reporter:  Denis Anuschewski |Owner:  nobody
 Type:  Cleanup/optimization  |   Status:  new
Component:  Error reporting   |  Version:  dev
 Severity:  Normal|   Resolution:
 Keywords:| Triage Stage:  Accepted
Has patch:  0 |  Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0 |  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0 |UI/UX:  1
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Changes (by Natalia Bidart):

 * cc: Thibaud Colas, Tom Carrick, Sarah Abderemane (added)
 * type:  Bug => Cleanup/optimization
 * version:  5.0 => dev
 * component:  Uncategorized => Error reporting
 * stage:  Unreviewed => Accepted


Comment:

 Accepting on the basis that I have used Django for more than 15 years and
 I did not know this existed!!!
 I agree that improving the discoverability of this feature would certainly
 be a positive thing for the framework.

 Denis, would you like to prepare a patch? I would suggest to first reach
 out to the Django Accessibility Team
 ([https://forum.djangoproject.com/c/internals/accessibility/26 via the
 Django forum]) to agree on a proper accessible design fix. Thank you!

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Re: [Django] #35137: Collapsible error container elements do not indicate that they are interactive

2024-01-23 Thread Django
#35137: Collapsible error container elements do not indicate that they are
interactive
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 Reporter:  Denis Anuschewski  |Owner:  nobody
 Type:  Bug|   Status:  new
Component:  Uncategorized  |  Version:  5.0
 Severity:  Normal |   Resolution:
 Keywords: | Triage Stage:  Unreviewed
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  Needs tests:  0  |  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0  |UI/UX:  1
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Changes (by Denis Anuschewski):

 * type:  Cleanup/optimization => Bug


Old description:

> On the debug page for a server error the collapsible elements in the
> traceback view do not clearly indicate that they are in fact interactive:
>
> 1) The little icon on the right corner is way too small I think and also
> far away from the element's inner content (see
> [https://ant.design/components/collapse] for a possible alternative).
>
> 2) The element does not stand out in a way that it indicates it's
> interactive. It could have e.g. a border to separate it from the
> background.
>
> Also the elements are not selectable via keyboard and the tab button.
>
> Example: [https://django-admin-
> tests.netlify.app/django_admin_tests/v5.1/english/defaults/500/]

New description:

 [[Image(https://code.djangoproject.com/raw-attachment/ticket/35137
 /stacktrace-error.png)]]

 On the debug page for a server error the collapsible elements in the
 traceback view do not clearly indicate that they are in fact interactive:

 1) The little icon on the right corner is way too small I think and also
 far away from the element's inner content (see
 [https://ant.design/components/collapse] for a possible alternative).

 2) The element does not stand out in a way that it indicates it's
 interactive. It could have e.g. a border to separate it from the
 background.

 Also the elements are not selectable via keyboard and the tab button.

 Example: [https://django-admin-
 tests.netlify.app/django_admin_tests/v5.1/english/defaults/500/]

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Re: [Django] #35137: Collapsible error container elements do not indicate that they are interactive

2024-01-23 Thread Django
#35137: Collapsible error container elements do not indicate that they are
interactive
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 Reporter:  Denis Anuschewski|Owner:  nobody
 Type:   |   Status:  new
  Cleanup/optimization   |
Component:  Uncategorized|  Version:  5.0
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:
 |  Unreviewed
Has patch:  0|  Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0|  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0|UI/UX:  1
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Description changed by Denis Anuschewski:

Old description:

> On the debug page for a server error the collapsible elements in the
> traceback view do not clearly indicate that they are in fact interactive:
>
> 1) The little icon on the right corner is way too small I think and also
> far away from the element's inner content (see
> [https://ant.design/components/collapse] for a possible alternative).
>
> 2) The element does not stand out in a way that it indicates it's
> interactive. It could have e.g. a border to separate it from the
> background.
>
> Also the elements are not selectable via keyboard and the tab button.
>
> Example: [https://django-admin-
> tests.netlify.app/django_admin_tests/v5.1/english/defaults/500/]
>
> [[Image(https://code.djangoproject.com/attachment/ticket/35137
> /stacktrace-error.png)]]

New description:

 On the debug page for a server error the collapsible elements in the
 traceback view do not clearly indicate that they are in fact interactive:

 1) The little icon on the right corner is way too small I think and also
 far away from the element's inner content (see
 [https://ant.design/components/collapse] for a possible alternative).

 2) The element does not stand out in a way that it indicates it's
 interactive. It could have e.g. a border to separate it from the
 background.

 Also the elements are not selectable via keyboard and the tab button.

 Example: [https://django-admin-
 tests.netlify.app/django_admin_tests/v5.1/english/defaults/500/]

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Re: [Django] #35137: Collapsible error container elements do not indicate that they are interactive

2024-01-23 Thread Django
#35137: Collapsible error container elements do not indicate that they are
interactive
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 Reporter:  Denis Anuschewski|Owner:  nobody
 Type:   |   Status:  new
  Cleanup/optimization   |
Component:  Uncategorized|  Version:  5.0
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:
 |  Unreviewed
Has patch:  0|  Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0|  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0|UI/UX:  1
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Description changed by Denis Anuschewski:

Old description:

> On the debug page for a server error the collapsible elements in the
> traceback view do not clearly indicate that they are in fact interactive:
>
> 1) The little icon on the right corner is way too small I think and also
> far away from the element's inner content (see
> [https://ant.design/components/collapse] for a possible alternative).
>
> 2) The element does not stand out in a way that it indicates it's
> interactive. It could have e.g. a border to separate it from the
> background.
>
> Also the elements are not selectable via keyboard and the tab button.
>
> Example: [https://django-admin-
> tests.netlify.app/django_admin_tests/v5.1/english/defaults/500/]

New description:

 On the debug page for a server error the collapsible elements in the
 traceback view do not clearly indicate that they are in fact interactive:

 1) The little icon on the right corner is way too small I think and also
 far away from the element's inner content (see
 [https://ant.design/components/collapse] for a possible alternative).

 2) The element does not stand out in a way that it indicates it's
 interactive. It could have e.g. a border to separate it from the
 background.

 Also the elements are not selectable via keyboard and the tab button.

 Example: [https://django-admin-
 tests.netlify.app/django_admin_tests/v5.1/english/defaults/500/]

 [[Image(https://code.djangoproject.com/attachment/ticket/35137/stacktrace-
 error.png)]]

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Re: [Django] #35137: Collapsible error container elements do not indicate that they are interactive

2024-01-23 Thread Django
#35137: Collapsible error container elements do not indicate that they are
interactive
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 Reporter:  Denis Anuschewski|Owner:  nobody
 Type:   |   Status:  new
  Cleanup/optimization   |
Component:  Uncategorized|  Version:  5.0
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:
 |  Unreviewed
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Easy pickings:  0|UI/UX:  1
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Changes (by Denis Anuschewski):

 * Attachment "stacktrace-error.png" added.


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