Re: Which ajax framework django will support in the upcoming 1.0, prototype/dojo/jquery?

2007-04-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think this discussion has reached its logical end as it often does. With that I will end it the way all the other discussions have ended ^_^. Write the integration framework for the Javascript library you like and get community support for it. If that support gets enough steam it will be

Re: Which ajax framework django will support in the upcoming 1.0, prototype/dojo/jquery?

2007-04-12 Thread pcad
> I like jQuery. You like mochikit. Others like YUI, or Prototype, or > Dojo. Who's right? Everybody. Nobody. It depends. I probably shouldn't have brought mochikit into it:) I like it, true enough, but I'd actually be happy to abandon it if there was some strong benefit like community

Re: Which ajax framework django will support in the upcoming 1.0, prototype/dojo/jquery?

2007-04-12 Thread limodou
On 4/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > pcad, there's some good points there, and maybe many of us could share > more code showing how we've integrated whatever JS toolkit with > Django. But I like the agnostic stand. They give the tools to connect > easily. HOW you connect

Re: Which ajax framework django will support in the upcoming 1.0, prototype/dojo/jquery?

2007-04-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pcad, there's some good points there, and maybe many of us could share more code showing how we've integrated whatever JS toolkit with Django. But I like the agnostic stand. They give the tools to connect easily. HOW you connect is up to you. I like jQuery. You like mochikit. Others like YUI, or

Re: Which ajax framework django will support in the upcoming 1.0, prototype/dojo/jquery?

2007-04-12 Thread pcad
> thread when I first came to Django. In hindsight, it was pure > inability to write the javascript myself, and reluctance to properly > learn javascript. In the end I've seen that writing javascript > manually results in much cleaner html output, using less code and it > sometimes just performs

Re: Which ajax framework django will support in the upcoming 1.0, prototype/dojo/jquery?

2007-04-10 Thread simonbun
I think that most people that ask for "ajax integration" want to see javascript helpers, as seen in many other frameworks. They're looking for things like for example {% auto_complete_tag .. params ..%}; wich would render an input box with the necessary javascript (inline..) that makes it

Re: Which ajax framework django will support in the upcoming 1.0, prototype/dojo/jquery?

2007-04-10 Thread jfagnani
On Apr 10, 11:39 am, "Todd O'Bryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 18:11 +, Steve Bergman wrote: > > But Django definitely has a preferred ORM and a preferred templating > > engine. Why be so set on complete agnosticism when it comes to > > javascript? > > I agree. I

Re: Which ajax framework django will support in the upcoming 1.0, prototype/dojo/jquery?

2007-04-10 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On 4/11/07, Adam Findley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I like the idea that Django is AJAX implementation agnostic the same way > it is agnostic to the database you prefer to back your project (if any), > but, is there any work being done to create something in contrib to > facilitate working

Re: Which ajax framework django will support in the upcoming 1.0, prototype/dojo/jquery?

2007-04-10 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 10-Apr-07, at 11:41 PM, Steve Bergman wrote: > But Django definitely has a preferred ORM and a preferred templating > engine. Why be so set on complete agnosticism when it comes to > javascript? then, to complete your analogy, they would have to write and maintain their own javascript

Re: Which ajax framework django will support in the upcoming 1.0, prototype/dojo/jquery?

2007-04-10 Thread aaloy
2007/4/10, James Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Again, it's not terribly hard to write views which return JSON or XML; > integration with form widgets, etc. requires binding to a specific JS > library or rolling our own, and that's not going to happen. > With Django is terribly easy to do

Re: Which ajax framework django will support in the upcoming 1.0, prototype/dojo/jquery?

2007-04-10 Thread James Bennett
On 4/10/07, Steve Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Even after the developer decides upon a javascript library to use, > there is still a lot of boilerplate involved to do common things like > populating one widget based upon what the user selects in another > widget. I often need to

Re: Which ajax framework django will support in the upcoming 1.0, prototype/dojo/jquery?

2007-04-10 Thread Todd O'Bryan
On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 18:11 +, Steve Bergman wrote: > But Django definitely has a preferred ORM and a preferred templating > engine. Why be so set on complete agnosticism when it comes to > javascript? > I agree. I don't have time to weigh the benefits of various libraries. As someone

Re: Which ajax framework django will support in the upcoming 1.0, prototype/dojo/jquery?

2007-04-10 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 4/10/07, Steve Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And, OK, I'll fess up and say that I want to think in python and not > have to switch gears back and forth between python and javascript. ;-) To me, for all the other arguments people make, this is the real issue: wanting to avoid writing

Re: Which ajax framework django will support in the upcoming 1.0, prototype/dojo/jquery?

2007-04-10 Thread Steve Bergman
To me, that does not seem very DRY. Even after the developer decides upon a javascript library to use, there is still a lot of boilerplate involved to do common things like populating one widget based upon what the user selects in another widget. I often need to populate one widget based upon

Re: Which ajax framework django will support in the upcoming 1.0, prototype/dojo/jquery?

2007-04-10 Thread Adam Findley
James Bennett wrote: > On 4/10/07, erdong ma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I do not know if a decision has been made on the ajax framework in 1.0. > > Django will not bundle any JavaScript library or provide integration > hooks with any specific library; Django will continue to make it easy > to

Re: Which ajax framework django will support in the upcoming 1.0, prototype/dojo/jquery?

2007-04-10 Thread James Bennett
On 4/10/07, erdong ma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I do not know if a decision has been made on the ajax framework in 1.0. Django will not bundle any JavaScript library or provide integration hooks with any specific library; Django will continue to make it easy to receive AJAX requests and send

Re: Which ajax framework django will support in the upcoming 1.0, prototype/dojo/jquery?

2007-04-10 Thread Marc Fargas Esteve
Hi Erdong, If you do a simple search for "AJAX" on this group you'll find the answer you're looking for, in brief: Django **will not** advocate for a specific ajax framework/library it provides useful tools to ease your development i.e. Serializers but as jacob sais a few days ago: "why should you

Which ajax framework django will support in the upcoming 1.0, prototype/dojo/jquery?

2007-04-10 Thread erdong ma
I do not know if a decision has been made on the ajax framework in 1.0. Anyone knows some message about this. By the way, how about the Eclipse + pydev comparing with the Wing IDE? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the