Re: Easiest front end JavaScript framework to integrate with a Django backend?

2018-11-30 Thread kennedy kay
Valid point you made there vincent.
Javascript libraries come and leave but django remains the same :)

Best best advise would be to just learn javascript first and every other
library becomes
easy-peasy. ;)



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On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 2:49 PM William Vincent 
wrote:

> Hi Joel,
>
> Your view is correct. I wrote a book on Django APIs (
> https://restapiswithdjango.com) and struggled with this same issue. The
> answer is to just pick one (Vue, React, Angular are the big 3 right now)
> based either on a whim or on whichever seems to have more jobs available.
> Probably that would mean React at the moment.
>
> You've probably also heard that you should just learn JavaScript at an
> expert level first before any framework. Also true but maddening. My advice
> would be to pick a basic project and implement it with all 3 and see which
> you like best. For a React example, see here:
> https://wsvincent.com/django-rest-framework-react-tutorial/.
>
> But again, just pick one and move on. JavaScript frameworks come and go.
> Fortunately Django does not as much.
>
> -William
>
> On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 9:25:30 PM UTC-5, Joel Mathew wrote:
>>
>> From the point of view of someone who hasnt been using frameworks but
>> wants to, this is all very maddening. Guess I just have to pick one
>> randomly between Vue and Angular!
>>
>> Sincerely yours,
>>
>>  Joel G Mathew
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 01:51, Benjamin SOULAS 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Currently I integrate VueJS, it works like a charm, the documentation is
>>> awesome
>>>
>>> Le jeu. 29 nov. 2018 21:17, Jani Tiainen  a écrit :
>>>
 Also there exist ExtJS, Dojo Toolkit and at least Svelte which I've
 tried...

 kennedy kay  kirjoitti to 29. marrask. 2018 klo
 21.25:

> For me personally I would recommend AngularJS. Not just because it
> easy to integrate with Django but because you can also create mobile
> applications on the fly.
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Re: Easiest front end JavaScript framework to integrate with a Django backend?

2018-11-30 Thread William Vincent
Hi Joel,

Your view is correct. I wrote a book on Django APIs 
(https://restapiswithdjango.com) and struggled with this same issue. The 
answer is to just pick one (Vue, React, Angular are the big 3 right now) 
based either on a whim or on whichever seems to have more jobs available. 
Probably that would mean React at the moment.

You've probably also heard that you should just learn JavaScript at an 
expert level first before any framework. Also true but maddening. My advice 
would be to pick a basic project and implement it with all 3 and see which 
you like best. For a React example, see 
here: https://wsvincent.com/django-rest-framework-react-tutorial/.
 
But again, just pick one and move on. JavaScript frameworks come and go. 
Fortunately Django does not as much.

-William

On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 9:25:30 PM UTC-5, Joel Mathew wrote:
>
> From the point of view of someone who hasnt been using frameworks but 
> wants to, this is all very maddening. Guess I just have to pick one 
> randomly between Vue and Angular!
>
> Sincerely yours,
>
>  Joel G Mathew
>
>
>
> On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 01:51, Benjamin SOULAS  > wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Currently I integrate VueJS, it works like a charm, the documentation is 
>> awesome 
>>
>> Le jeu. 29 nov. 2018 21:17, Jani Tiainen > 
>> a écrit :
>>
>>> Also there exist ExtJS, Dojo Toolkit and at least Svelte which I've 
>>> tried...
>>>
>>> kennedy kay > kirjoitti to 29. 
>>> marrask. 2018 klo 21.25:
>>>
 For me personally I would recommend AngularJS. Not just because it easy 
 to integrate with Django but because you can also create mobile 
 applications on the fly.

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Re: Easiest front end JavaScript framework to integrate with a Django backend?

2018-11-29 Thread Jani Tiainen
Hi,

Yes it's very hard to pick a framework (since there exists quite a bunch of
different frameworks) if you don't know one. In most cases it's completely
irrelevant for Django being as a backend service. So it's not harder or
easier to use most of the frameworks. I personally have found openui5 being
one of the "hard" libraries due it's way to use OData v4 for REST data
binding and never used it beyond some small testing.

If you think fo a timeline, things get interesting. Vue has been around
"only" for bit over 4 years.React is bit older dating a bit over 5 years.
Dojo Toolkit which I have been using dates already over 13 years. ExtJS
which I'm even currently using has a bit more fuzzy history but first
versions did appear about 10 years ago. Svelte (which I'm currently
evaluating) is one of the new comers dating first version just around two
years old.

So yes, there are quite a diversity what you can use and it's not easy to
pick one specially if you expect that your app will be maintained for
unforeseeable future.

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 4:25 AM Joel Mathew  wrote:

> From the point of view of someone who hasnt been using frameworks but
> wants to, this is all very maddening. Guess I just have to pick one
> randomly between Vue and Angular!
>
> Sincerely yours,
>
>  Joel G Mathew
>
>
>
> On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 01:51, Benjamin SOULAS 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Currently I integrate VueJS, it works like a charm, the documentation is
>> awesome
>>
>> Le jeu. 29 nov. 2018 21:17, Jani Tiainen  a écrit :
>>
>>> Also there exist ExtJS, Dojo Toolkit and at least Svelte which I've
>>> tried...
>>>
>>> kennedy kay  kirjoitti to 29. marrask. 2018 klo
>>> 21.25:
>>>
 For me personally I would recommend AngularJS. Not just because it easy
 to integrate with Django but because you can also create mobile
 applications on the fly.

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Re: Easiest front end JavaScript framework to integrate with a Django backend?

2018-11-29 Thread Joel Mathew
>From the point of view of someone who hasnt been using frameworks but wants
to, this is all very maddening. Guess I just have to pick one randomly
between Vue and Angular!

Sincerely yours,

 Joel G Mathew



On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 01:51, Benjamin SOULAS 
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> Hello,
>
> Currently I integrate VueJS, it works like a charm, the documentation is
> awesome
>
> Le jeu. 29 nov. 2018 21:17, Jani Tiainen  a écrit :
>
>> Also there exist ExtJS, Dojo Toolkit and at least Svelte which I've
>> tried...
>>
>> kennedy kay  kirjoitti to 29. marrask. 2018 klo
>> 21.25:
>>
>>> For me personally I would recommend AngularJS. Not just because it easy
>>> to integrate with Django but because you can also create mobile
>>> applications on the fly.
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Re: Easiest front end JavaScript framework to integrate with a Django backend?

2018-11-29 Thread Benjamin SOULAS
Hello,

Currently I integrate VueJS, it works like a charm, the documentation is
awesome

Le jeu. 29 nov. 2018 21:17, Jani Tiainen  a écrit :

> Also there exist ExtJS, Dojo Toolkit and at least Svelte which I've
> tried...
>
> kennedy kay  kirjoitti to 29. marrask. 2018 klo
> 21.25:
>
>> For me personally I would recommend AngularJS. Not just because it easy
>> to integrate with Django but because you can also create mobile
>> applications on the fly.
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Re: Easiest front end JavaScript framework to integrate with a Django backend?

2018-11-29 Thread Jani Tiainen
Also there exist ExtJS, Dojo Toolkit and at least Svelte which I've tried...

kennedy kay  kirjoitti to 29. marrask. 2018 klo
21.25:

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Re: Easiest front end JavaScript framework to integrate with a Django backend?

2018-11-29 Thread kennedy kay
For me personally I would recommend AngularJS. Not just because it easy to 
integrate with Django but because you can also create mobile applications on 
the fly.

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Re: Easiest front end JavaScript framework to integrate with a Django backend?

2018-11-29 Thread Jason
react is like flask, whereas angular is like django as far as what's 
included in the framework from the start.

as long as you have an api, doesn't matter what you use for the frontend 
whether it be straight JS to angular/vue/react.  the question is the 
understanding of the separation of concerns and how you structure your 
project.

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Re: Easiest front end JavaScript framework to integrate with a Django backend?

2018-11-29 Thread Joel Mathew
I didnt see anyone recommending React. Is there any aspect that makes it
difficult to use with django?

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Re: Easiest front end JavaScript framework to integrate with a Django backend?

2018-11-29 Thread Gerson David Vizquel Alemán
You can use vuejs is... a pure love JavaScript framework. Take a look at 
this: https://2018.stateofjs.com/front-end-frameworks/overview/

El martes, 27 de noviembre de 2018, 16:21:32 (UTC-4), Simon Connah escribió:
>
> I'm in the process of building a website in Django and need to make a 
> specific part of my application dynamic. Because of that I'd like to use 
> a JavaScript frontend framework to build this portion of the site. 
>
> I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for which JavaScript 
> framework I should use that integrates well with a Django backend? 
>
> If anyone is curious I am working on an auction style website. 
>
> Thank you for any help. 
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Re: Easiest front end JavaScript framework to integrate with a Django backend?

2018-11-28 Thread Andréas Kühne
The problem is it isn't easy to recommend a javascript framework because
there are so many and all have different pros and cons. Another thing is
that they are also very subjective in what you need / want. Django itself
isn't biased towards one or the other. Also communicating with django
itself would however be simplified if you use Django Rest Framework
alongside the current solution you have.

So recommending one isn't as easy as saying how to use a template in django
itself :-)

Regards,

Andréas


Den ons 28 nov. 2018 kl 15:29 skrev Joel Mathew :

> I've been thinking a lot about the most painless way of learning a
> javascript framework. My project is almost complete, and so far everything
> has been written in javascript using jquery. But for what I have planned
> next, a framework would be immensely helpful. I just wish it was as easy as
> learning python and django!
> Sincerely yours,
>
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Re: Easiest front end JavaScript framework to integrate with a Django backend?

2018-11-28 Thread Joel Mathew
I've been thinking a lot about the most painless way of learning a
javascript framework. My project is almost complete, and so far everything
has been written in javascript using jquery. But for what I have planned
next, a framework would be immensely helpful. I just wish it was as easy as
learning python and django!
Sincerely yours,

 Joel G Mathew



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Re: Easiest front end JavaScript framework to integrate with a Django backend?

2018-11-28 Thread Jason
Its really personal preference at times, especially for personal projects.  
That said, when it comes to frameworks like angular, react, vue, picking 
one is like picking a version control solution.  

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Re: Easiest front end JavaScript framework to integrate with a Django backend?

2018-11-28 Thread Joel Mathew
Please provide more useful information that merely suggesting the name of a
framework. Please say why you feel this framework is better for working
with django.
Sincerely yours,

 Joel G Mathew



On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 18:36, Thanh Tuyền Huỳnh <
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> Hi guys,
>
> You could refer Vuejs.
>
> Vào 03:20 T.4, 28 Th11 2018 Simon Connah  đã viết:
>
>> I'm in the process of building a website in Django and need to make a
>> specific part of my application dynamic. Because of that I'd like to use
>> a JavaScript frontend framework to build this portion of the site.
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for which JavaScript
>> framework I should use that integrates well with a Django backend?
>>
>> If anyone is curious I am working on an auction style website.
>>
>> Thank you for any help.
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Re: Easiest front end JavaScript framework to integrate with a Django backend?

2018-11-28 Thread Thanh Tuyền Huỳnh
Hi guys,

You could refer Vuejs.

Vào 03:20 T.4, 28 Th11 2018 Simon Connah  đã viết:

> I'm in the process of building a website in Django and need to make a
> specific part of my application dynamic. Because of that I'd like to use
> a JavaScript frontend framework to build this portion of the site.
>
> I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for which JavaScript
> framework I should use that integrates well with a Django backend?
>
> If anyone is curious I am working on an auction style website.
>
> Thank you for any help.
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Re: Easiest front end JavaScript framework to integrate with a Django backend?

2018-11-27 Thread Alfredo Sumague
you can use AngularJS framework with Django.

goodluck,
Alfred

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 12:21 PM Simon Connah 
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Easiest front end JavaScript framework to integrate with a Django backend?

2018-11-27 Thread Simon Connah
I'm in the process of building a website in Django and need to make a 
specific part of my application dynamic. Because of that I'd like to use 
a JavaScript frontend framework to build this portion of the site.


I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for which JavaScript 
framework I should use that integrates well with a Django backend?


If anyone is curious I am working on an auction style website.

Thank you for any help.

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