Re: Future for Django, Jobs, Confused :/

[Alan Ávalos Hernández]

Also, it's important to always understand the core concepts of what you're 
doing. Programming languages and frameworks are tools to get the job done. 
Those come and go. But if you really have a good grasp of the theory behind 
those, only certain details are going to have a relevant role in your decision 
to use certain tools.

People in companies are more interested to see that you understand what you're 
doing and know all these concepts. Unless the position requires you to be a 
language/framework expert.

Give it a try, learn whatever suits you best. And then, try to do another 
development with another language and framework. If you know the core concepts, 
you'll see that this is easier than learn everything from the beginning.

> On Mar 6, 2015, at 9:58 AM, Ilya Kazakevich  wrote:
> 
> You never know what would be popular in next several years. In late 90th Perl 
> was the main web development language. In 2000th it was PHP. Now it is Ruby 
> and Python. If you love Python, use Django but study Ruby/RoR in background. 
> Ruby is not rocket science and you should not have any serious troubles with 
> it if you are advanced Python programmer. Do not lock yourself with ONE 
> language unless you have your own startup that uses this language.
> 
> 
>> On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 10:15:32 PM UTC+3, Ismael Ezequiel wrote:
>> I'm confused what "framework" choice for web development, I love Python. as 
>> is the future for Django, I spend a lot time studying Django. I see more 
>> jobs for Ruby on Rails than Django :/
>> 
>> Sorry my english.
>> 
>> Thanks.
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Re: Future for Django, Jobs, Confused :/

[Ilya Kazakevich]

You never know what would be popular in next several years. In late 90th 
Perl was the main web development language. In 2000th it was PHP. Now it is 
Ruby and Python. If you love Python, use Django but study Ruby/RoR in 
background. Ruby is not rocket science and you should not have any serious 
troubles with it if you are advanced Python programmer. Do not lock 
yourself with ONE language unless you have your own startup that uses this 
language.


On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 10:15:32 PM UTC+3, Ismael Ezequiel wrote:
>
> I'm confused what "framework" choice for web development, I love Python. 
> as is the future for Django, I spend a lot time studying Django. I see more 
> jobs for Ruby on Rails than Django :/
>
> Sorry my english.
>
> Thanks.
>

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Re: Future for Django, Jobs, Confused :/

[Ismael Ezequiel]

thak

Em quarta-feira, 4 de março de 2015 16:15:32 UTC-3, Ismael Ezequiel 
escreveu:
>
> Estou confuso que escolha "framework" para o desenvolvimento web, eu adoro 
> Python. como é o futuro para Django, eu passar um tempo estudando muito 
> Django. Eu vejo mais empregos para Ruby on Rails que Django: /
>
> Desculpe o meu Inglês.
>
> Obrigado.
>

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Re: Future for Django, Jobs, Confused :/

[Derek]

Good point Andrew -  its certainly true for us.  Another point is that if 
you work for yourself (e.g. doing contract work), then you need to pick a 
tool that you can be productive in, as this is usually more important to 
most smaller clients than using Tool A or Tool B.

On Thursday, 5 March 2015 01:03:54 UTC+2, Andrew Farrell wrote:
>
> One thing to keep in mind is that there are more fields using primarily 
> python than using primarily ruby. A company that that does primarily 
> scientific computing in python may not advertise jobs in Django or Flask. 
> However, when they need to build a web interface for something, they will 
> reach for Django or Flask and so familiarity with that is useful.
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Javier Guerra Giraldez  > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 5:40 PM, François Schiettecatte
>>  wrote:
>> > commit to learning a new one every couple of years (or more often if 
>> you can).
>>
>> this.
>>
>> even if I write Python as a requisite when hiring, I expect any new
>> recruit to be able to pick languages as needed.  Of course, that
>> doesn't mean we're jumping all around, just that the languages must be
>> tools not barriers.
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Re: Future for Django, Jobs, Confused :/

[Andrew Farrell]

One thing to keep in mind is that there are more fields using primarily
python than using primarily ruby. A company that that does primarily
scientific computing in python may not advertise jobs in Django or Flask.
However, when they need to build a web interface for something, they will
reach for Django or Flask and so familiarity with that is useful.

On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Javier Guerra Giraldez 
wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 5:40 PM, François Schiettecatte
>  wrote:
> > commit to learning a new one every couple of years (or more often if you
> can).
>
> this.
>
> even if I write Python as a requisite when hiring, I expect any new
> recruit to be able to pick languages as needed.  Of course, that
> doesn't mean we're jumping all around, just that the languages must be
> tools not barriers.
>
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Re: Future for Django, Jobs, Confused :/

[Javier Guerra Giraldez]

On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 5:40 PM, François Schiettecatte
 wrote:
> commit to learning a new one every couple of years (or more often if you can).

this.

even if I write Python as a requisite when hiring, I expect any new
recruit to be able to pick languages as needed.  Of course, that
doesn't mean we're jumping all around, just that the languages must be
tools not barriers.

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Re: Future for Django, Jobs, Confused :/

[François Schiettecatte]

If the question is What Do I Invest In? Then the answer is to learn enough 
tools to be able to develop a full stack (JavaScript, HTML, Django, Python, 
MySQL/Postgres/Other), and expect that you will be learning new things all the 
time. I picked Django because I settled for Python rather than Ruby when I 
wanted to move off of Perl (having done a lot of C and Java along the way). 
Learning Python not only opened up Django but also Flask (and a lot more 
besides), but I learned enough Ruby to able to develop with i. And what you use 
now may not be what you use in 5 years time. It is good to have two or three 
languages (not including JavaScript) under your belt and commit to learning a 
new one every couple of years (or more often if you can).

François

> On Mar 4, 2015, at 4:36 PM, Avraham Serour  wrote:
> 
> so what is the question?
> 
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 2:34 AM, Ismael Ezequiel  
> wrote:
> I'm confused what "framework" choice for web development, I love Python. as 
> is the future for Django, I spend a lot time studying Django. I see more jobs 
> for Ruby on Rails than Django :/
> 
> Sorry my english.
> 
> Thanks.
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Re: Future for Django, Jobs, Confused :/

[Avraham Serour]

so what is the question?

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 2:34 AM, Ismael Ezequiel 
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> I'm confused what "framework" choice for web development, I love Python.
> as is the future for Django, I spend a lot time studying Django. I see more
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> Sorry my english.
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Future for Django, Jobs, Confused :/

[Ismael Ezequiel]

I'm confused what "framework" choice for web development, I love Python. as 
is the future for Django, I spend a lot time studying Django. I see more 
jobs for Ruby on Rails than Django :/

Sorry my english.

Thanks.

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