Re: any suggestions for managing DB schema with visual ERD tool?

[snfctech]

Thanks for the link to that option, Dougal.  I have typically managed
my models textually in the past - and maybe that's still the best way
to do things.  Especially if you can use things like graph_models to
output a visual representation for discussion purposes.  I was just
trying out a new way of doing things and wondering if anybody else in
the Django community was already managing models visually.

Plus, there's the 'light-weight' argument.  MySQL Workbench is the
first free/functional ERD management tool I've found - and it's pretty
heavy duty.  I'm not sure I want to depend on an application like that
for fundamental design work..

On Feb 18, 9:38 am, Dougal Matthews  wrote:
> On 18 February 2010 00:03, snfctech  wrote:
>
> > I just built a complicated schema with MySQL workbench and am looking
> > at Python frameworks to start implementation.
>
> > Does anybody in the Django community do this?  What's your practice
> > for going back and forth between the ERD and the ORM?  I saw
> > DjangoGraphvizhttp://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/DjangoGraphviz-
> > which looks like you manage your schema in your Django models and can
> > then export those to a visual representation.  Does anyone use that?
>
> > I would love a visual DB design tool that automatically generated my
> > framework models - but I'm sure that doesn't exist.
>
> You could always continue to use MySQL workbench and use django-admin.py
> inspecdb[1] to create the models. It seems a bit backwards to me and I
> imagine it will trip up eventually...
>
> I would suggest you try to get used to managing them via python - there is a
> reason most people use it, it really works quite well.
>
> [1]:http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/django-admin/#inspectdb

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Re: any suggestions for managing DB schema with visual ERD tool?

[Dougal Matthews]

On 18 February 2010 00:03, snfctech  wrote:

> I just built a complicated schema with MySQL workbench and am looking
> at Python frameworks to start implementation.
>
> Does anybody in the Django community do this?  What's your practice
> for going back and forth between the ERD and the ORM?  I saw
> DjangoGraphviz http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/DjangoGraphviz -
> which looks like you manage your schema in your Django models and can
> then export those to a visual representation.  Does anyone use that?
>
> I would love a visual DB design tool that automatically generated my
> framework models - but I'm sure that doesn't exist.


You could always continue to use MySQL workbench and use django-admin.py
inspecdb[1] to create the models. It seems a bit backwards to me and I
imagine it will trip up eventually...

I would suggest you try to get used to managing them via python - there is a
reason most people use it, it really works quite well.

[1]: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/django-admin/#inspectdb

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Re: any suggestions for managing DB schema with visual ERD tool?

[snfctech]

@Daniel: That's the idea!  But it's Mac only. :-(

@rebus_: Thanks for the links for graph_models.  You still have to
manage the models textually, though.  I was hoping for something that
you could manage visually.

On Feb 18, 1:15 am, rebus_  wrote:
> On 18 February 2010 01:03, snfctech  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I just built a complicated schema with MySQL workbench and am looking
> > at Python frameworks to start implementation.
>
> > Does anybody in the Django community do this?  What's your practice
> > for going back and forth between theERDand the ORM?  I saw
> > DjangoGraphvizhttp://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/DjangoGraphviz-
> > which looks like you manage your schema in your Django models and can
> > then export those to a visual representation.  Does anyone use that?
>
> > I would love a visual DB design tool that automatically generated my
> > framework models - but I'm sure that doesn't exist.
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> http://code.google.com/p/django-command-extensions/http://code.google.com/p/django-command-extensions/wiki/GraphModels

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Re: any suggestions for managing DB schema with visual ERD tool?

[rebus_]

On 18 February 2010 01:03, snfctech  wrote:
> I just built a complicated schema with MySQL workbench and am looking
> at Python frameworks to start implementation.
>
> Does anybody in the Django community do this?  What's your practice
> for going back and forth between the ERD and the ORM?  I saw
> DjangoGraphviz http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/DjangoGraphviz -
> which looks like you manage your schema in your Django models and can
> then export those to a visual representation.  Does anyone use that?
>
> I would love a visual DB design tool that automatically generated my
> framework models - but I'm sure that doesn't exist.
>
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http://code.google.com/p/django-command-extensions/
http://code.google.com/p/django-command-extensions/wiki/GraphModels

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Re: any suggestions for managing DB schema with visual ERD tool?

[Daniel Hilton]

On 18 February 2010 00:03, snfctech  wrote:
> I just built a complicated schema with MySQL workbench and am looking
> at Python frameworks to start implementation.
>
> Does anybody in the Django community do this?  What's your practice
> for going back and forth between the ERD and the ORM?  I saw
> DjangoGraphviz http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/DjangoGraphviz -
> which looks like you manage your schema in your Django models and can
> then export those to a visual representation.  Does anyone use that?
>
> I would love a visual DB design tool that automatically generated my
> framework models - but I'm sure that doesn't exist.

Saw this a couple of days ago:
http://github.com/diN0bot/Auto-Models

It's omnigraffle specific and I haven't used it but it does kinda fit your wish.

HTH
Dan



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any suggestions for managing DB schema with visual ERD tool?

[snfctech]

I just built a complicated schema with MySQL workbench and am looking
at Python frameworks to start implementation.

Does anybody in the Django community do this?  What's your practice
for going back and forth between the ERD and the ORM?  I saw
DjangoGraphviz http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/DjangoGraphviz -
which looks like you manage your schema in your Django models and can
then export those to a visual representation.  Does anyone use that?

I would love a visual DB design tool that automatically generated my
framework models - but I'm sure that doesn't exist.

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