Aw: Re: can django be used in destop application?

[Juergen Schackmann]

if you still want to go down the "use django for desktop application" road, 
you might want to have a look at pyjamas to build your frontend: pyjs.org

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Re: can django be used in destop application?

[kenneth gonsalves]

On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 18:36 +0100, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
wrote:
> Curious concept, using Django for a desktop application. 
> 
> Can't think of any reason why you couldn't at least try it :) 
> 

use wxpython instead of templates.
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Re: can django be used in destop application?

[Thomas Weholt]

I remember "way back in the day" when Userland was paving way for what
was to become xml-rpc, feeds etc ( if I remeber correcly ), the core
was a web application running at localhost only. Worked great! I like
the idea and allready have a project for something like this. I've
tried wxpython, pyqt etc and I still make stuff way faster using
django. It doesn't fit every project though.

And another thing; there have been discussion about how to distribute
django projects and a django project distributed as a single binary, a
setup.exe on windows for instance? Sounds nice.

Thomas

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Gelonida N  wrote:
>> Curious concept, using Django for a desktop application.
>>
>> Can't think of any reason why you couldn't at least try it :)
>>
>> Cal
>>
>>
> Original poster was rather clear I think,
>
>>     > it seems its orm can be used in destop application， isn't it?
>
>
> It could make sense to use Django orms, because one knows already django
> orms, but one doesn't know SqlAlchemy or any other orms.
>
> This use case is possible, but not that nicely supported.
> you.
>
>
> You can also search for the thread
> "import django models without runing the server",
>
> which would also be applicable for desktop applications using
> django orms
>
>
> On 08/23/2011 07:36 PM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] wrote:
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Re: can django be used in destop application?

[Gelonida N]

> Curious concept, using Django for a desktop application.
>
> Can't think of any reason why you couldn't at least try it :)
>
> Cal
>
>
Original poster was rather clear I think,

> > it seems its orm can be used in destop application， isn't it?


It could make sense to use Django orms, because one knows already django
orms, but one doesn't know SqlAlchemy or any other orms.

This use case is possible, but not that nicely supported.
you.


You can also search for the thread
"import django models without runing the server",

which would also be applicable for desktop applications using
django orms


On 08/23/2011 07:36 PM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] wrote:

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Re: can django be used in destop application?

[Andre Terra]

Better yet,

http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/software/pyqt/download


Cheers,
AT

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Sam Walters  wrote:

> Seriously why bother?
>
> http://www.wxpython.org/
>
> The whole front end of django is too web-centric. So the only thing
> that might be of use is if you have an existing web application which
> heavily uses the django ORM and you want back end consistency with a
> desktop GUI application that shares thee same database.
>
> Writing an application with wx-python is less time consuming than
> dealing with css+html you wont have the same issues to consider when
> thinking about security. wx-python  is a 2-3 week learning curve to
> become proficient and lots of tutorials out there.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 5:50 AM, h3  wrote:
> > Django is modular enough that most of its parts could probably be
> > replaced with desktop oriented
> > modules, like rendering QT templates instead of HTML templates.. which
> > is great.
> >
> > If not you can probably use a embed browser engine (like webkit) and
> > run your app like a website
> > locally and get somewhat the look and feel of a desktop application.
> >
> > That said, your real problem will arise when your application will
> > need to do things that doesn't adhere to
> > the REST api. Then you'll need to find a way to save your application
> > state and that's pretty much
> > when shit will hit the fan IMHO.
> >
> > If the desktop application(s) you want to build are all easily
> > translatable for the web (using a REST api that is),
> > I think it's theoretically possible. But try to do anything out of
> > this scope and you will bitten at every corners.
> >
> > In other words, not really worth the troubles.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Max
> >
> >
> > On Aug 23, 1:36 pm, "Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]"
> >  wrote:
> >> Curious concept, using Django for a desktop application.
> >>
> >> Can't think of any reason why you couldn't at least try it :)
> >>
> >> Cal
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Andy McKay  wrote:
> >>
> >> > On 2011-08-23, at 4:17 AM, smith jack wrote:
> >>
> >> > > i mean not use django for web site development, but for desktop
> >> > application,
> >> > > it seems its orm can be used in destop application， isn't it?
> >>
> >> > Yes.
> >> > --
> >> >  Andy McKay
> >> >  a...@clearwind.ca
> >> >  twitter: @andymckay
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Re: can django be used in destop application?

[Sam Walters]

Seriously why bother?

http://www.wxpython.org/

The whole front end of django is too web-centric. So the only thing
that might be of use is if you have an existing web application which
heavily uses the django ORM and you want back end consistency with a
desktop GUI application that shares thee same database.

Writing an application with wx-python is less time consuming than
dealing with css+html you wont have the same issues to consider when
thinking about security. wx-python  is a 2-3 week learning curve to
become proficient and lots of tutorials out there.



On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 5:50 AM, h3  wrote:
> Django is modular enough that most of its parts could probably be
> replaced with desktop oriented
> modules, like rendering QT templates instead of HTML templates.. which
> is great.
>
> If not you can probably use a embed browser engine (like webkit) and
> run your app like a website
> locally and get somewhat the look and feel of a desktop application.
>
> That said, your real problem will arise when your application will
> need to do things that doesn't adhere to
> the REST api. Then you'll need to find a way to save your application
> state and that's pretty much
> when shit will hit the fan IMHO.
>
> If the desktop application(s) you want to build are all easily
> translatable for the web (using a REST api that is),
> I think it's theoretically possible. But try to do anything out of
> this scope and you will bitten at every corners.
>
> In other words, not really worth the troubles.
>
> regards,
>
> Max
>
>
> On Aug 23, 1:36 pm, "Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]"
>  wrote:
>> Curious concept, using Django for a desktop application.
>>
>> Can't think of any reason why you couldn't at least try it :)
>>
>> Cal
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Andy McKay  wrote:
>>
>> > On 2011-08-23, at 4:17 AM, smith jack wrote:
>>
>> > > i mean not use django for web site development, but for desktop
>> > application,
>> > > it seems its orm can be used in destop application， isn't it?
>>
>> > Yes.
>> > --
>> >  Andy McKay
>> >  a...@clearwind.ca
>> >  twitter: @andymckay
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Re: can django be used in destop application?

[h3]

Django is modular enough that most of its parts could probably be
replaced with desktop oriented
modules, like rendering QT templates instead of HTML templates.. which
is great.

If not you can probably use a embed browser engine (like webkit) and
run your app like a website
locally and get somewhat the look and feel of a desktop application.

That said, your real problem will arise when your application will
need to do things that doesn't adhere to
the REST api. Then you'll need to find a way to save your application
state and that's pretty much
when shit will hit the fan IMHO.

If the desktop application(s) you want to build are all easily
translatable for the web (using a REST api that is),
I think it's theoretically possible. But try to do anything out of
this scope and you will bitten at every corners.

In other words, not really worth the troubles.

regards,

Max


On Aug 23, 1:36 pm, "Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]"
 wrote:
> Curious concept, using Django for a desktop application.
>
> Can't think of any reason why you couldn't at least try it :)
>
> Cal
>
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Andy McKay  wrote:
>
> > On 2011-08-23, at 4:17 AM, smith jack wrote:
>
> > > i mean not use django for web site development, but for desktop
> > application,
> > > it seems its orm can be used in destop application， isn't it?
>
> > Yes.
> > --
> >  Andy McKay
> >  a...@clearwind.ca
> >  twitter: @andymckay
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Re: can django be used in destop application?

[Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]]

Curious concept, using Django for a desktop application.

Can't think of any reason why you couldn't at least try it :)

Cal

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Andy McKay  wrote:

>
> On 2011-08-23, at 4:17 AM, smith jack wrote:
>
> > i mean not use django for web site development, but for desktop
> application,
> > it seems its orm can be used in destop application， isn't it?
>
> Yes.
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>  a...@clearwind.ca
>  twitter: @andymckay
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Re: can django be used in destop application?

[Subhranath Chunder]

If ORM is what you are looking for, then you could try SQLAlchemy.


On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 4:47 PM, smith jack  wrote:

> i mean not use django for web site development, but for desktop
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Re: can django be used in destop application?

[Yaşar Arabacı]

I had written something about this earlier, Although the article is in
Turkish, you can still understand the django part I guess. It demonstrates
how to use django component with other applications, by creating a dummy
package manager.
http://yasar.serveblog.net/post/djangoda-paket-yoneticisi-yapalm/

2011/8/23 Andy McKay 

>
> On 2011-08-23, at 4:17 AM, smith jack wrote:
>
> > i mean not use django for web site development, but for desktop
> application,
> > it seems its orm can be used in destop application， isn't it?
>
> Yes.
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Re: can django be used in destop application?

[Andy McKay]

On 2011-08-23, at 4:17 AM, smith jack wrote:

> i mean not use django for web site development, but for desktop application,
> it seems its orm can be used in destop application， isn't it?

Yes.
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can django be used in destop application?

[smith jack]

i mean not use django for web site development, but for desktop application,
it seems its orm can be used in destop application， isn't it?

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