Re: [dmarc-ietf] Cataloging MLM manipulations of messages

2014-09-23 Thread Dave Crocker
On 9/23/2014 10:09 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: I suspect such a thing will quickly become obsolete. I'm sure it will. The point is that I think it can have utility to get folks thinking in terms of a potentially wide /range/ of choice, with the document giving a snapshot in time of choices

Re: [dmarc-ietf] yet more From rewriting,

2014-09-23 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Steven M Jones writes: On 09/22/2014 03:17 PM, Josh Aberant wrote: Who uses X-Original-From ? This is a real question, I'm not aware of anyone who does. At Twitter we use the X-Original-From to route our security tickets with users within our ticketing system Salesforce. Users

Re: [dmarc-ietf] yet more From rewriting,

2014-09-23 Thread Steven M Jones
On 09/23/2014 10:26 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: On 09/22/2014 03:17 PM, Josh Aberant wrote: alias. Google Groups (takes ownership of the From per our #RejectPolicy) and then I don't understand our #RejectPolicy. What are you talking about? Surely not DMARC? That reject policy

Re: [dmarc-ietf] yet more From rewriting,

2014-09-23 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Brandon Long writes: In any case, support folks, especially when dealing with paying customers, tend to want to get all of the email, they don't want their nicely paying customers to not get support just because of spam false positives or the mail routing breaking dkim. Sure, but this

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Additional List-foo Header Field To Help Mitigate Mailing List Damage

2014-09-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
On September 23, 2014 8:22:41 PM EDT, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote: Brandon Long writes: Sorry, they often term the messages as notifications instead of posts, when they actually contain the full post and author information/etc. I guess I'd need to see one to decide how I

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Additional List-foo Header Field To Help Mitigate Mailing List Damage

2014-09-23 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Scott Kitterman writes: On September 23, 2014 8:22:41 PM EDT, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote: I don't recall commercial service Groups using that mode, though -- they always have the author in From IIRC. Except at the very least Google Groups. If you are talking about