[dmarc-ietf] dmarc - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 110

2021-02-12 Thread "IETF Secretariat"
Dear Alexey Melnikov, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. dmarc Session 1 (1:00 requested) Wednesday, 10 March 2021, Session II 1530-1630 Room Name: Room 2 size: 502

Re: [dmarc-ietf] [EXTERNAL] Re: Ticket #64 - Contained Data PII Concerns

2021-02-12 Thread Seth Blank
Yes, very true. Again as an individual, I think it's worth calling out explicitly in the draft, simply because it does seem to cause friction with implementations. On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 1:23 PM John R Levine wrote: > > In the data itself, there are summaries of IP addresses and >

Re: [dmarc-ietf] [EXTERNAL] Re: Ticket #64 - Contained Data PII Concerns

2021-02-12 Thread John R Levine
In the data itself, there are summaries of IP addresses and authentication statuses of mail that fall into three categories: 1) mail that is authenticated by the domain, 2) mail that fails to authenticate as the domain, and 3) mail that is wholly unauthenticated. From a domain owner perspective,

Re: [dmarc-ietf] [EXTERNAL] Re: Ticket #64 - Contained Data PII Concerns

2021-02-12 Thread Seth Blank
As an individual, part of the reason for this ticket is that some receivers do not send aggregate reports, as they're unclear on whose data is being provided to whom (which then spirals into issues of legalities). While the IETF cannot weigh in on legalities, it can make clear the intention of

Re: [dmarc-ietf] [EXTERNAL] Re: Ticket #64 - Contained Data PII Concerns

2021-02-12 Thread Brotman, Alex
Apologies, this is for aggregate reports. I'm would imagine the Failure reports draft would have its own section as the questions there may be different. -- Alex Brotman Sr. Engineer, Anti-Abuse & Messaging Policy Comcast > -Original Message- > From: John Levine > Sent: Friday,

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ticket #64 - Contained Data PII Concerns

2021-02-12 Thread John Levine
In article you write: >Hello folks, > >In ticket #64 (https://trac.ietf.org/trac/dmarc/ticket/64), it was suggested >that a Privacy Considerations section may alleviate >some concerns about the ownership of the data. I created an initial attempt, >and thought to get some feedback. I didn't

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ticket #1 - SPF alignment

2021-02-12 Thread John Levine
In article you write: >-=-=-=-=-=- > >As an individual, +1000 to Scott. I've closed this ticket. One down, a zillion to go. R's, John ___ dmarc mailing list dmarc@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc

[dmarc-ietf] Ticket #64 - Contained Data PII Concerns

2021-02-12 Thread Brotman, Alex
Hello folks, In ticket #64 (https://trac.ietf.org/trac/dmarc/ticket/64), it was suggested that a Privacy Considerations section may alleviate some concerns about the ownership of the data. I created an initial attempt, and thought to get some feedback. I didn't think we should go too far in

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ticket #1 - SPF alignment

2021-02-12 Thread Seth Blank
As an individual, +1000 to Scott. As Chair, this thread is unproductive, and two months passed due date to resolve. Consensus seems clear that there isn't an issue here. If there's a clear use case that hasn't been communicated, share it now or move on. Seth On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 10:02 AM

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ticket #1 - SPF alignment

2021-02-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
I didn't miss it. I don't think it's meaningful. In the real world, outside the IETF one of three things happens: 1. Everything works fine. 2. Someone depends on HELO evaluation of SPF and discovers from evaluating the feedback reports that's it's a problem and then doesn't to that anymore.