Re: [dmarc-ietf] mustard, was I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis-12.txt

2022-07-14 Thread Todd Herr
On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 7:44 PM Scott Kitterman wrote: > On July 13, 2022 9:51:31 PM UTC, John R Levine wrote: > >On Wed, 13 Jul 2022, John Levine wrote: > >> It appears that Murray S. Kucherawy said: > >>> Speaking as an AD now, you should expect me to complain about the > "SHOULD" > >>> in

Re: [dmarc-ietf] what to document about the tree walk

2022-07-14 Thread Dotzero
On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 11:12 AM Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 6:13 AM Scott Kitterman > wrote: > >> >> I think a choice within DMARCbis is a bad idea. Effectively the >> choice exists. Evaluators will have the choice to stay with an RFC 7489 >> design or to upgrade to

Re: [dmarc-ietf] what to document about the tree walk

2022-07-14 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 6:13 AM Scott Kitterman wrote: > >> I think a choice within DMARCbis is a bad idea. Effectively the choice > exists. Evaluators will have the choice to stay with an RFC 7489 design or > to upgrade to DMARCbis. > > > >The incentive to upgrade is not clear. DMARC filters

Re: [dmarc-ietf] what to document about the tree walk

2022-07-14 Thread John R Levine
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022, Scott Kitterman wrote: In my view, standardizing two ways to do policy discovery and alignment would be a substantial danger to interoperability and we'd be stuck with it approximately forever. I agree, it's a self-evidently terrible idea. "Temporary" transition periods

Re: [dmarc-ietf] what to document about the tree walk

2022-07-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
On July 14, 2022 12:11:57 PM UTC, Alessandro Vesely wrote: >On Wed 13/Jul/2022 17:56:08 +0200 Scott Kitterman wrote: >> On July 13, 2022 3:10:38 PM UTC, "Murray S. Kucherawy" >> wrote: >>> Once again, participating only: >>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 3:43 AM Douglas Foster wrote: [...] >>>

Re: [dmarc-ietf] what to document about the tree walk

2022-07-14 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Wed 13/Jul/2022 17:56:08 +0200 Scott Kitterman wrote: On July 13, 2022 3:10:38 PM UTC, "Murray S. Kucherawy" wrote: Once again, participating only: On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 3:43 AM Douglas Foster wrote: [...] 3) The critical question is whether we can treat the PSL as replaced without