[dmarc-ietf] dmarc - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 118

2023-09-15 Thread IETF Meeting Session Request Tool
A new meeting session request has just been submitted by Barry Leiba, a Chair of the DMARC Working Group. - Working Group Name: Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting Conformance Area Name: Applications and Real-Time Area

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Some Gmail comments on DMARCbis version 28

2023-09-15 Thread Barry Leiba
> Content filtering creates a need for whitelisting > Any domain may require whitelisting, regardless of sender policy. > Whitelisting is only safe if it is coupled with an authentication mechanism > which prevents impersonation. > Therefore, sender authentication, by a combination of local

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Some Gmail comments on DMARCbis version 28

2023-09-15 Thread Douglas Foster
Glad you are seeing DMARC benefits. I suggest a full set of management statistics should be based on 100 of messages, and include: % blocked by reputation % blocked by DMARC Fail+Reject % Authenticated by DMARC % Authenticated by local policy % Not authenticated "Not Authenticated" is an

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Some Gmail comments on DMARCbis version 28

2023-09-15 Thread Douglas Foster
No. Realistically, this is the last document likely to come out of this group on this subject. So I am no sure to publish it unless it fixes the coverage problem. To state the coverage problem another way: - Content filtering creates a need for whitelisting - Any domain may require

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Some Gmail comments on DMARCbis version 28

2023-09-15 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Thu 14/Sep/2023 16:39:49 +0200 Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 6:01 PM Douglas Foster wrote: Our assumed reference model is a fully automated, by-the-spec implementation of RFC 7489. In particular, this means that: - when p=none, unauthenticated messages are never