Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: Priming the Pump for Discussion - Ratchets

2021-07-21 Thread Barry Leiba
>> I don't agree with the characterization of the second group. I would >> say that we are partitioning messages into these two groups: >> - Those for which we can confirm that they originated in the domain >> they say they did. >> - Those for which we can not confirm that. > > When we use

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: Priming the Pump for Discussion - Ratchets

2021-07-21 Thread Douglas Foster
Barry's comment: I don't agree with the characterization of the second group. I would say that we are partitioning messages into these two groups: - Those for which we can confirm that they originated in the domain they say they did. - Those for which we can not confirm that. When we use

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: Priming the Pump for Discussion - Ratchets

2021-07-20 Thread Dave Crocker
On 7/20/2021 7:50 AM, Barry Leiba wrote: I don't agree with the characterization of the second group. I would say that we are partitioning messages into these two groups: - Those for which we can confirm that they originated in the domain they say they did. - Those for which we can not confirm

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: Priming the Pump for Discussion - Ratchets

2021-07-20 Thread Barry Leiba
Doug, I think the issue here is that I disagree with your premise, so the rest of the argument fails for me: > The goal is to partition all incoming messages into two mutually exclusive > groups: Those messages which > originated under domain owner control, and those which originated under >

[dmarc-ietf] Fwd: Priming the Pump for Discussion - Ratchets

2021-07-17 Thread Douglas Foster
The goal is to partition all incoming messages into two mutually exclusive groups: Those messages which originated under domain owner control, and those which originated under domain owner control, and those which originated outside domain owner control. This requires two things: - First,