Re: [dmarc-discuss] Fwd: Re: Help

2018-09-26 Thread Jonathan Knopp via dmarc-discuss
To play devil's advocate: it doesn't explicitly provide unsubscribe instructions directly in the email itself. A non-savvy user likely wouldn't think to follow the non-obvious info link in the footer. And not all mail clients make use of the list-unsubscribe header. That said... why would any

Re: [dmarc-discuss] DMARC report from Google shows unexpected result

2016-12-24 Thread Jonathan Knopp via dmarc-discuss
On 2016-12-24 12:15 PM, Jim Garrison via dmarc-discuss wrote: > How did the DKIM signature 'pass'? What does the disposition=none > mean? Did Google not reject the email? Sounds to me like you may have the wrong idea of DMARC's mechanics. Only one of DKIM and SPF has to pass for DMARC to pass. So

Re: [dmarc-discuss] DMARC forensic reporting options

2016-12-23 Thread Jonathan Knopp via dmarc-discuss
On 2016-12-23 10:09 AM, Juri Haberland via dmarc-discuss wrote: > When I look at the few failure reports that I receive, they all consist of > headers only - but all headers, not just a few. They do not include a > single line of the body. > So your proposal would just describe the reality - or wha

[dmarc-discuss] FBL via DMARC?

2016-11-28 Thread Jonathan Knopp via dmarc-discuss
Has there been any discussion about using DMARC to configure spam complaint feedback loops? Currently it is only feasible to register for the big ESPs and can be tough to keep them up to date. DMARC could make this automatic and universal. It would be well within DMARC's mandate of domain reputa

Re: [dmarc-discuss] FortiNet’s FortiMail DMARC implementation

2016-11-14 Thread Jonathan Knopp via dmarc-discuss
> But (by default) overriding a p=none to something stronger is punishing those > who at least have heard of DMARC in favor of not publishing a record at all, > and thus not gathering enough data to be able to get to reject or quarantine. > It can take a long time to get beyond p=none depending

Re: [dmarc-discuss] Tracking down issues

2016-11-07 Thread Jonathan Knopp via dmarc-discuss
> If there's somewhere specific you're seeing a lot of failures from (Say, for > example, your stuff works fine vs Google and Microsoft, but fails over here > at AOL) it's usually pretty easy to reach out to us to find out what's up. > Most of us are pretty helpful when we can be. Not a specific

[dmarc-discuss] Tracking down issues

2016-11-05 Thread Jonathan Knopp via dmarc-discuss
Howdy list, At the risk of incurring the wrath of the "*groan* we know" gods... Since hardly anyone sends forensic reports, is there any secret sauce I'm missing that helps you track down issues? If DMARC reports mentioned the sender username at least, then I would know which user to speak to a