Re: [dmarc-discuss] How to block fake forwarders?

2017-10-12 Thread Seth Blank via dmarc-discuss
In addition to Vladimir's post, M3AAWG just published an SPF best practices
paper that might be useful:

https://www.m3aawg.org/sites/default/files/m3aawg_managing-spf_records-2017-08.pdf

Seth

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Pete Holzmann via dmarc-discuss <
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> Vladimir,
>
> Thanks for that article. You did cover all of the issues I've seen to
> date... including one I
> saw just this morning for the first time!
>
>An organization's SPF has:
>v=spf1 mx include:smtproutes.com include:smtpout.com ~all
>include:spf.protection.outlook.com -all include:spf.
> emailsignatures365.com -all
>
>They couldn't understand why their outlook email was having trouble :)
>
> So, I've re-enabled spf for JUST my email server host, using JUST its ip4
> address. Makes
> sense... sometimes it needs to send bounce-o-grams.
>
> Pete
>
>
> On 12 Oct 2017 Vladimir Dubrovin via dmarc-d said...
>
> >
> >And this can be (and most probably is) invalid SPF configuration,
> >because mail1.iecc.com can be used in HELO.
> >
> >I've gathered most common SPF misconceptions in this article:
> >
> >https://hackernoon.com/myths-and-legends-of-spf-d17919a9e817
> >
> >
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Re: [dmarc-discuss] How to block fake forwarders?

2017-10-12 Thread Pete Holzmann via dmarc-discuss
Vladimir,

Thanks for that article. You did cover all of the issues I've seen to date... 
including one I 
saw just this morning for the first time! 

   An organization's SPF has:
   v=spf1 mx include:smtproutes.com include:smtpout.com ~all 
   include:spf.protection.outlook.com -all include:spf.emailsignatures365.com 
-all 

   They couldn't understand why their outlook email was having trouble :)

So, I've re-enabled spf for JUST my email server host, using JUST its ip4 
address. Makes 
sense... sometimes it needs to send bounce-o-grams.

Pete


On 12 Oct 2017 Vladimir Dubrovin via dmarc-d said...

>
>And this can be (and most probably is) invalid SPF configuration,
>because mail1.iecc.com can be used in HELO.
>
>I've gathered most common SPF misconceptions in this article:
>
>https://hackernoon.com/myths-and-legends-of-spf-d17919a9e817
>
>
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Re: [dmarc-discuss] How to block fake forwarders?

2017-10-12 Thread Paul Rock via dmarc-discuss
This is a pretty common practice for domains that people own for brand
protection as well - a0l.com has a -all SPF, p=reject DMARC policy, and no
MX.

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:22 AM, Pete Holzmann via dmarc-discuss <
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> Awesome! Thank you SO much :)
>
> On 12 Oct 2017 John Levine said...
>
> >If you want no mail sent or received by ds.org (as opposed
> >to any other domains you host) it is just fine to say
> >that.
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