Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC result for DKIM testing and policy

2024-03-21 Thread Mark Alley
On 3/21/2024 7:05 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On March 21, 2024 11:39:35 PM UTC, "Murray S. Kucherawy" wrote: On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 12:59 AM Scott Kitterman wrote: For t=y, DKIM says: y This domain is testing DKIM. Verifiers MUST NOT treat messages from Signers in

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC result for DKIM testing and policy

2024-03-21 Thread Scott Kitterman
On March 21, 2024 11:39:35 PM UTC, "Murray S. Kucherawy" wrote: >On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 12:59 AM Scott Kitterman >wrote: > >> >> For t=y, DKIM says: >> >> >> >>y This domain is testing DKIM. Verifiers MUST NOT treat >> messages >> >> from Signers in testing mode

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC result for DKIM testing and policy

2024-03-21 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 12:59 AM Scott Kitterman wrote: > >> For t=y, DKIM says: > >> > >>y This domain is testing DKIM. Verifiers MUST NOT treat > messages > >> from Signers in testing mode differently from unsigned email, > >> even should the signature fail to

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC result for DKIM testing and policy

2024-03-21 Thread John Levine
It appears that Todd Herr said: > 2. That part of 6376 might be better written as "Should the signature > fail to verify, verifiers MUST NOT treat messages from Signers in testing > mode differently from unsigned email." as I see no reason to penalize a > Domain Owner who successfully

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC result for DKIM testing and policy

2024-03-21 Thread Scott Kitterman
On March 21, 2024 2:15:00 PM UTC, Todd Herr wrote: >On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 5:55 AM Alessandro Vesely wrote: > >> On Wed 20/Mar/2024 23:11:20 +0100 Matthäus Wander wrote: >> > Alessandro Vesely wrote on 2024-03-20 15:42: >> >> what is the result of DMARC on having, say >> >> >> >>

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC result for DKIM testing and policy

2024-03-21 Thread Todd Herr
On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 10:15 AM Todd Herr wrote: > On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 5:55 AM Alessandro Vesely wrote: > >> On Wed 20/Mar/2024 23:11:20 +0100 Matthäus Wander wrote: >> > Alessandro Vesely wrote on 2024-03-20 15:42: >> >> what is the result of DMARC on having, say >> >> >> >>

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC result for DKIM testing and policy

2024-03-21 Thread Todd Herr
On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 5:55 AM Alessandro Vesely wrote: > On Wed 20/Mar/2024 23:11:20 +0100 Matthäus Wander wrote: > > Alessandro Vesely wrote on 2024-03-20 15:42: > >> what is the result of DMARC on having, say > >> > >> dkim=pass (testing key) > >> or > >> dkim=policy (512 byte key)

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC result for DKIM testing and policy

2024-03-21 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Wed 20/Mar/2024 23:11:20 +0100 Matthäus Wander wrote: Alessandro Vesely wrote on 2024-03-20 15:42: what is the result of DMARC on having, say dkim=pass (testing key) or dkim=policy (512 byte key) is that akin to SPF neutral, i.e. dmarc=fail? dkim=pass results in dmarc=pass (if

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC result for DKIM testing and policy

2024-03-20 Thread Matthäus Wander
Alessandro Vesely wrote on 2024-03-20 15:42: what is the result of DMARC on having, say     dkim=pass (testing key) or     dkim=policy (512 byte key) is that akin to SPF neutral, i.e. dmarc=fail? dkim=pass results in dmarc=pass (if the domain is aligned). The comment in brackets is for