Re: [DMM] [Ila] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-herbert-ila-mobile-00.txt

2018-02-01 Thread Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
Absolutely! A programmable data plane what FPC interface is offering, keeps the CUPS objectives. Sri On 2/1/18, 5:07 PM, "ila on behalf of Marco Liebsch" wrote: >I think we should rather relax the dependency between control and data

Re: [DMM] [Ila] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-herbert-ila-mobile-00.txt

2018-02-01 Thread Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
Tom, Last I remember, we gave one “generic” and an access agnostic protocol in the form MIPv6/PMIPv6, they never got it and never cared. But, if you can sell it to 3GPP, this new control-plane that goes into user-plane, I am with you. :-) Sri On 2/1/18, 4:57 PM, "Tom Herbert"

Re: [DMM] [Ila] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-herbert-ila-mobile-00.txt

2018-02-01 Thread Marco Liebsch
I think we should rather relax the dependency between control and data plane. If we treat the data plane as nodes which enforce policies (encap, recap, re-write, etc), any c plane may suit and enforce suitable policies in the selected data plane nodes, e.g. by utilizing the DMM group’s FPC

Re: [DMM] [Ila] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-herbert-ila-mobile-00.txt

2018-02-01 Thread Tom Herbert
On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 4:38 PM, Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) wrote: >> One thing to add. LISP has a more mature control-plane mapping system. >>ILA has a recent proposal for its control-plane. > > Mobility architectures started with a unified CP/UP approach, then the > industry

Re: [DMM] [Ila] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-herbert-ila-mobile-00.txt

2018-02-01 Thread Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
> One thing to add. LISP has a more mature control-plane mapping system. >ILA has a recent proposal for its control-plane. Mobility architectures started with a unified CP/UP approach, then the industry thought its a great idea to move the Control-plane out, and reduce the state in the

Re: [DMM] [Ila] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-herbert-ila-mobile-00.txt

2018-02-01 Thread Dino Farinacci
One thing to add. LISP has a more mature control-plane mapping system. ILA has a recent proposal for its control-plane. Dino > On Feb 1, 2018, at 3:33 PM, Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) > wrote: > > Thank you Dino. > > WG - Same comments for this draft. LISP is another

Re: [DMM] [Ila] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-herbert-ila-mobile-00.txt

2018-02-01 Thread Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
Thank you Dino. WG - Same comments for this draft. LISP is another LOC-ID proposal, with many common attributes (if I may say, like two twins) shared with ILA; some differences in how the Locator (COA) and identifier (HOA) spaces are defined/used/managed, and with one key difference of

Re: [DMM] [Ila] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-herbert-ila-mobile-00.txt

2018-02-01 Thread Dino Farinacci
> ILA is one of the proposals on the table. This is not an adoption call at > this time, but asking the WG to review and open up some discussions that > will help IETF understand the problem/solutions, and pick the right > solution(s) for this problem statement. If there is interest and if the >

Re: [DMM] [Ila] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-herbert-ila-mobile-00.txt

2018-02-01 Thread Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
Thank you Tom and Kalyani for your submission. WG - During the adoption of draft-matsushima-spring-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane, we did say that we will consider alternative approaches for the problem statement around mobile user-plane optimization, and that we will not limit to SRv6 as the only

[DMM] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-herbert-ila-mobile-00.txt

2018-02-01 Thread Tom Herbert
Hello, We posted this draft that describe using ILA for the mobile network use case, and some specifics about using ILA in 5G. We like like to request that the dmm WG consider ILA as a candidate protocol for the 3GPP "Study on User Plane Protocol in 5GC". Comments are appreciated! Thank you,

[DMM] Reformulation of policy lifecycle ideas in FPC draft

2018-02-01 Thread Charlie Perkins
Hello folks, I would like to propose a bit of reorganization for the current policy handling as specified in the current FPC document. Roughly speaking, a policy can exist in one of three "forms". A policy definition can be referenced in an Indexed Set by making use of a Policy Key.  This

[DMM] Updated FPC Working Sessions

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