Re: [DMM] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobility-anchoring-08.txt
Hi Carlo, Thank you. > - Drastic shortening of the document, aiming at reducing its complexity >and length. We have shortened from ~45 pages to ~15 pages. Incredible! This is exactly what I hoped for. I never understood why there was so much of text and what it was saying. This helps in IESG reviews. Given that its a significant re-write, we unfortunately require some good amount of new reviews. But, this is progress. Sri On 3/6/18, 1:40 PM, "Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano" wrote: >Hi Sri, > >Apologies for the delayed reaction. We were busy with the last minute >I-D submission. > >Regarding the changes that went into -08, this is my summary: > >- Drastic shortening of the document, aiming at reducing its complexity >and length. We have shortened from ~45 pages to ~15 pages. > >- Simplification of the terminology and associated drawings, to just >focus on data plane anchors (control plane is mentioned, but the >document is about anchoring, so it is about data plane). > >- Removal of parts about hierarchical networks and NEMO. > >- Minimization of all the part about anchor mobility, as there is no >solution that the WG has identified as viable. We limit the doc to >anchor switching and anchor selection. > >- Keep the focus on the document being informational (it is not >normative, so no solution is specified). > >Regarding open issues, I'd like to request some volunteers in the WG to >take a look (even a first quick one) to provide some feedback about >whether we are on the right track or not. It'd be really ideal if we >could have some discussion before the f2f in London, so we could try to >close/decide on open issues by the London meeting. > >Thanks! > >Carlos > >On Fri, 2018-03-02 at 19:05 +, Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) wrote: >> Hi Carlos/Anthony/Authors, >> >> Thanks for the updates. Please summarize the changes that went into >> -08 >> version, and also let the WG know on the open issues. >> >> Sri >> >> >> >> On 3/2/18, 10:15 AM, "dmm on behalf of internet-dra...@ietf.org" >> wrote: >> >> > >> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >> > directories. >> > This draft is a work item of the Distributed Mobility Management WG >> > of >> > the IETF. >> > >> >Title : Distributed Mobility Anchoring >> >Authors : H. Anthony Chan >> > Xinpeng Wei >> > Jong-Hyouk Lee >> > Seil Jeon >> > Carlos J. Bernardos >> >Filename: draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobility- >> > anchoring-08.txt >> >Pages : 15 >> >Date: 2018-03-02 >> > >> > Abstract: >> > This document defines distributed mobility anchoring in terms of >> > the >> > different configurations and functions to provide IP mobility >> > support. A network may be configured with distributed mobility >> > anchoring functions for both network-based or host-based mobility >> > support according to the needs of mobility support. In the >> > distributed mobility anchoring environment, multiple anchors are >> > available for mid-session switching of an IP prefix anchor. To >> > start >> > a new flow or to handle a flow not requiring IP session >> > continuity as >> > a mobile node moves to a new network, the flow can be started or >> > re- >> > started using a new IP address configured from the new IP prefix >> > which is anchored to the new network. The mobility functions and >> > their operations and parameters are general for different >> > configurations. >> > >> > >> > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobilit >> > y-ancho >> > ring/ >> > >> > There are also htmlized versions available at: >> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobility-anc >> > horing- >> > 08 >> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mo >> > bility- >> > anchoring-08 >> > >> > A diff from the previous version is available at: >> > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobili >> > ty-anch >> > oring-08 >> > >> > >> > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >> > submission >> > until the htmlized version and diff are available at >> > tools.ietf.org. >> > >> > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> > >> > ___ >> > dmm mailing list >> > dmm@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmm >> >> ___ >> dmm mailing list >> dmm@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmm ___ dmm mailing list dmm@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmm
Re: [DMM] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobility-anchoring-08.txt
Thanks a lot Marco! Looking forward to getting your comments. Carlos On Wed, 2018-03-07 at 09:28 +, Marco Liebsch wrote: > Hi Carlos, Anthony, > > I had a brief look and see a big improvement, way better to read. > Since I volunteered during last f2f to review (..), > I'll take the current version and we can follow your proposal to talk > before the f2f. > > marco > > -Original Message- > From: dmm [mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Jesús > Bernardos Cano > Sent: Dienstag, 6. März 2018 22:40 > To: Sri Gundavelli (sgundave); dmm@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [DMM] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobility- > anchoring-08.txt > > Hi Sri, > > Apologies for the delayed reaction. We were busy with the last minute > I-D submission. > > Regarding the changes that went into -08, this is my summary: > > - Drastic shortening of the document, aiming at reducing its > complexity and length. We have shortened from ~45 pages to ~15 pages. > > - Simplification of the terminology and associated drawings, to just > focus on data plane anchors (control plane is mentioned, but the > document is about anchoring, so it is about data plane). > > - Removal of parts about hierarchical networks and NEMO. > > - Minimization of all the part about anchor mobility, as there is no > solution that the WG has identified as viable. We limit the doc to > anchor switching and anchor selection. > > - Keep the focus on the document being informational (it is not > normative, so no solution is specified). > > Regarding open issues, I'd like to request some volunteers in the WG > to take a look (even a first quick one) to provide some feedback > about whether we are on the right track or not. It'd be really ideal > if we could have some discussion before the f2f in London, so we > could try to close/decide on open issues by the London meeting. > > Thanks! > > Carlos > > On Fri, 2018-03-02 at 19:05 +, Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) wrote: > > Hi Carlos/Anthony/Authors, > > > > Thanks for the updates. Please summarize the changes that went into > > -08 > > version, and also let the WG know on the open issues. > > > > Sri > > > > > > > > On 3/2/18, 10:15 AM, "dmm on behalf of internet-dra...@ietf.org" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet- > > > Drafts > > > directories. > > > This draft is a work item of the Distributed Mobility Management > > > WG > > > of the IETF. > > > > > >Title : Distributed Mobility Anchoring > > >Authors : H. Anthony Chan > > > Xinpeng Wei > > > Jong-Hyouk Lee > > > Seil Jeon > > > Carlos J. Bernardos > > > Filename: draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobility- > > > anchoring-08.txt > > > Pages : 15 > > > Date: 2018-03-02 > > > > > > Abstract: > > > This document defines distributed mobility anchoring in terms > > > of > > > the > > > different configurations and functions to provide IP mobility > > > support. A network may be configured with distributed mobility > > > anchoring functions for both network-based or host-based > > > mobility > > > support according to the needs of mobility support. In the > > > distributed mobility anchoring environment, multiple anchors > > > are > > > available for mid-session switching of an IP prefix > > > anchor. To > > > start > > > a new flow or to handle a flow not requiring IP session > > > continuity > > > as > > > a mobile node moves to a new network, the flow can be started > > > or > > > re- > > > started using a new IP address configured from the new IP > > > prefix > > > which is anchored to the new network. The mobility functions > > > and > > > their operations and parameters are general for different > > > configurations. > > > > > > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobil > > > it > > > y-ancho > > > ring/ > > > > > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobility-a > > &
Re: [DMM] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobility-anchoring-08.txt
Hi Carlos, Anthony, I had a brief look and see a big improvement, way better to read. Since I volunteered during last f2f to review (..), I'll take the current version and we can follow your proposal to talk before the f2f. marco -Original Message- From: dmm [mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano Sent: Dienstag, 6. März 2018 22:40 To: Sri Gundavelli (sgundave); dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [DMM] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobility-anchoring-08.txt Hi Sri, Apologies for the delayed reaction. We were busy with the last minute I-D submission. Regarding the changes that went into -08, this is my summary: - Drastic shortening of the document, aiming at reducing its complexity and length. We have shortened from ~45 pages to ~15 pages. - Simplification of the terminology and associated drawings, to just focus on data plane anchors (control plane is mentioned, but the document is about anchoring, so it is about data plane). - Removal of parts about hierarchical networks and NEMO. - Minimization of all the part about anchor mobility, as there is no solution that the WG has identified as viable. We limit the doc to anchor switching and anchor selection. - Keep the focus on the document being informational (it is not normative, so no solution is specified). Regarding open issues, I'd like to request some volunteers in the WG to take a look (even a first quick one) to provide some feedback about whether we are on the right track or not. It'd be really ideal if we could have some discussion before the f2f in London, so we could try to close/decide on open issues by the London meeting. Thanks! Carlos On Fri, 2018-03-02 at 19:05 +, Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) wrote: > Hi Carlos/Anthony/Authors, > > Thanks for the updates. Please summarize the changes that went into > -08 > version, and also let the WG know on the open issues. > > Sri > > > > On 3/2/18, 10:15 AM, "dmm on behalf of internet-dra...@ietf.org" > wrote: > > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > > directories. > > This draft is a work item of the Distributed Mobility Management WG > > of the IETF. > > > >Title : Distributed Mobility Anchoring > >Authors : H. Anthony Chan > > Xinpeng Wei > > Jong-Hyouk Lee > > Seil Jeon > > Carlos J. Bernardos > > Filename: draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobility- > > anchoring-08.txt > > Pages : 15 > > Date: 2018-03-02 > > > > Abstract: > > This document defines distributed mobility anchoring in terms of > > the > > different configurations and functions to provide IP mobility > > support. A network may be configured with distributed mobility > > anchoring functions for both network-based or host-based mobility > > support according to the needs of mobility support. In the > > distributed mobility anchoring environment, multiple anchors are > > available for mid-session switching of an IP prefix anchor. To > > start > > a new flow or to handle a flow not requiring IP session continuity > > as > > a mobile node moves to a new network, the flow can be started or > > re- > > started using a new IP address configured from the new IP prefix > > which is anchored to the new network. The mobility functions and > > their operations and parameters are general for different > > configurations. > > > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobilit > > y-ancho > > ring/ > > > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobility-anc > > horing- > > 08 > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mo > > bility- > > anchoring-08 > > > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobili > > ty-anch > > oring-08 > > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > > submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at > > tools.ietf.org. > > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > > ___ > > dmm mailing list > > dmm@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmm > > ___ > dmm mailing list > dmm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmm ___ dmm mailing list dmm@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmm ___ dmm mailing list dmm@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmm
Re: [DMM] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobility-anchoring-08.txt
Hi Sri, Apologies for the delayed reaction. We were busy with the last minute I-D submission. Regarding the changes that went into -08, this is my summary: - Drastic shortening of the document, aiming at reducing its complexity and length. We have shortened from ~45 pages to ~15 pages. - Simplification of the terminology and associated drawings, to just focus on data plane anchors (control plane is mentioned, but the document is about anchoring, so it is about data plane). - Removal of parts about hierarchical networks and NEMO. - Minimization of all the part about anchor mobility, as there is no solution that the WG has identified as viable. We limit the doc to anchor switching and anchor selection. - Keep the focus on the document being informational (it is not normative, so no solution is specified). Regarding open issues, I'd like to request some volunteers in the WG to take a look (even a first quick one) to provide some feedback about whether we are on the right track or not. It'd be really ideal if we could have some discussion before the f2f in London, so we could try to close/decide on open issues by the London meeting. Thanks! Carlos On Fri, 2018-03-02 at 19:05 +, Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) wrote: > Hi Carlos/Anthony/Authors, > > Thanks for the updates. Please summarize the changes that went into > -08 > version, and also let the WG know on the open issues. > > Sri > > > > On 3/2/18, 10:15 AM, "dmm on behalf of internet-dra...@ietf.org" > wrote: > > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > > directories. > > This draft is a work item of the Distributed Mobility Management WG > > of > > the IETF. > > > >Title : Distributed Mobility Anchoring > >Authors : H. Anthony Chan > > Xinpeng Wei > > Jong-Hyouk Lee > > Seil Jeon > > Carlos J. Bernardos > > Filename: draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobility- > > anchoring-08.txt > > Pages : 15 > > Date: 2018-03-02 > > > > Abstract: > > This document defines distributed mobility anchoring in terms of > > the > > different configurations and functions to provide IP mobility > > support. A network may be configured with distributed mobility > > anchoring functions for both network-based or host-based mobility > > support according to the needs of mobility support. In the > > distributed mobility anchoring environment, multiple anchors are > > available for mid-session switching of an IP prefix anchor. To > > start > > a new flow or to handle a flow not requiring IP session > > continuity as > > a mobile node moves to a new network, the flow can be started or > > re- > > started using a new IP address configured from the new IP prefix > > which is anchored to the new network. The mobility functions and > > their operations and parameters are general for different > > configurations. > > > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobilit > > y-ancho > > ring/ > > > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobility-anc > > horing- > > 08 > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mo > > bility- > > anchoring-08 > > > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobili > > ty-anch > > oring-08 > > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > > submission > > until the htmlized version and diff are available at > > tools.ietf.org. > > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > > ___ > > dmm mailing list > > dmm@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmm > > ___ > dmm mailing list > dmm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmm ___ dmm mailing list dmm@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmm
Re: [DMM] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobility-anchoring-08.txt
Hi Carlos/Anthony/Authors, Thanks for the updates. Please summarize the changes that went into -08 version, and also let the WG know on the open issues. Sri On 3/2/18, 10:15 AM, "dmm on behalf of internet-dra...@ietf.org" wrote: > >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >directories. >This draft is a work item of the Distributed Mobility Management WG of >the IETF. > >Title : Distributed Mobility Anchoring >Authors : H. Anthony Chan > Xinpeng Wei > Jong-Hyouk Lee > Seil Jeon > Carlos J. Bernardos > Filename: draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobility-anchoring-08.txt > Pages : 15 > Date: 2018-03-02 > >Abstract: > This document defines distributed mobility anchoring in terms of the > different configurations and functions to provide IP mobility > support. A network may be configured with distributed mobility > anchoring functions for both network-based or host-based mobility > support according to the needs of mobility support. In the > distributed mobility anchoring environment, multiple anchors are > available for mid-session switching of an IP prefix anchor. To start > a new flow or to handle a flow not requiring IP session continuity as > a mobile node moves to a new network, the flow can be started or re- > started using a new IP address configured from the new IP prefix > which is anchored to the new network. The mobility functions and > their operations and parameters are general for different > configurations. > > >The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobility-ancho >ring/ > >There are also htmlized versions available at: >https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobility-anchoring- >08 >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobility- >anchoring-08 > >A diff from the previous version is available at: >https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobility-anch >oring-08 > > >Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >submission >until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > >Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > >___ >dmm mailing list >dmm@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmm ___ dmm mailing list dmm@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmm
[DMM] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobility-anchoring-08.txt
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Distributed Mobility Management WG of the IETF. Title : Distributed Mobility Anchoring Authors : H. Anthony Chan Xinpeng Wei Jong-Hyouk Lee Seil Jeon Carlos J. Bernardos Filename: draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobility-anchoring-08.txt Pages : 15 Date: 2018-03-02 Abstract: This document defines distributed mobility anchoring in terms of the different configurations and functions to provide IP mobility support. A network may be configured with distributed mobility anchoring functions for both network-based or host-based mobility support according to the needs of mobility support. In the distributed mobility anchoring environment, multiple anchors are available for mid-session switching of an IP prefix anchor. To start a new flow or to handle a flow not requiring IP session continuity as a mobile node moves to a new network, the flow can be started or re- started using a new IP address configured from the new IP prefix which is anchored to the new network. The mobility functions and their operations and parameters are general for different configurations. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobility-anchoring/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobility-anchoring-08 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobility-anchoring-08 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobility-anchoring-08 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ ___ dmm mailing list dmm@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmm
