Re: [DMM] [E] Re: [Ila] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-herbert-ila-mobile-00.txt

[Dino Farinacci]

> On Feb 6, 2018, at 5:04 AM, Bogineni, Kalyani 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dino:
> 
> Can you add a section to show how this proposal would fit in 5G architecture? 

Can you be more specific in what you’d like to see in the new section?

There are references throughout the draft where you see eNodeB and pGW that UPF 
functionality could be at the same network mode location. 

Dino
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Re: [DMM] [E] Re: [Ila] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-herbert-ila-mobile-00.txt

[Bogineni, Kalyani]

Dino:

Can you add a section to show how this proposal would fit in 5G architecture? 

Kalyani

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From: ila [mailto:ila-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 6:34 PM
To: Dino Farinacci <farina...@gmail.com>
Cc: i...@ietf.org; Tom Herbert <t...@quantonium.net>; dmm <dmm@ietf.org>
Subject: [E] Re: [Ila] [DMM] Fwd: New Version Notification for 
draft-herbert-ila-mobile-00.txt

Thank you Dino. 

WG -  Same comments for this draft. LISP is another LOC-ID proposal, with many 
common attributes (if I  may say, like two twins) shared with ILA; some 
differences in how the Locator (COA) and identifier (HOA) spaces are 
defined/used/managed, and with one key difference of tunneling vs translation. 
Please review.


Regards
Sri

On 2/1/18, 2:59 PM, "Dino Farinacci" <farina...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> ILA is one of the proposals on the table. This is not an adoption 
>>call at  this time, but asking the WG to review and open up some 
>>discussions that  will help IETF understand the problem/solutions, and 
>>pick the right
>> solution(s) for this problem statement. If there is interest and if 
>>the  work is in scope for the group, we will issue an adoption call at 
>>some  point in future. Please review.
>
>I just got on the dmm list. Here is another proposal:
>
>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__datatracker.ietf.o
>rg_doc_draft-2Dfarinacci-2Dlisp-2Dmobile-2Dnetwork_=DwICAg=udBTRvFv
>XC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ=IdiSODh8aDRjdCeGgd9MznLHMYKgKcs_Y
>SwXBDiaofh47oilzaXYRYETcBynUdpT=0FPXpkwcIr_nXgnH3elSoIO0UbXQVCs2mAT1a
>FmeI30=GsKsl3A6sbXWSegMimugCGCWIdJey5Gt4pq_z6Ql1oA=
>
>Dino
>

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Re: [DMM] [E] Re: [Ila] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-herbert-ila-mobile-00.txt

[Bogineni, Kalyani]

Fred:

Can you add a section to show how this proposal will work in 5G architecture?

Kalyani

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From: ila [mailto:ila-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 11:00 AM
To: Templin, Fred L <fred.l.temp...@boeing.com>; Dino Farinacci 
<farina...@gmail.com>; Tom Herbert <t...@quantonium.net>
Cc: i...@ietf.org; dmm <dmm@ietf.org>
Subject: [E] Re: [Ila] [DMM] Fwd: New Version Notification for 
draft-herbert-ila-mobile-00.txt

Thank you Fred. 
 
There is a reason for mobile architectures shifting towards CP-UP split 
architecture (Ref: DMM WG documents + 3GPP CUPS), and the stated goal of 
further simplification in the mobile user plane (Reference: 3GPP CT4 Study item 
and 3GPP Liaison statement to DMM). Now, it will be good if we can explain how 
each of these protocols (ILA, LISP, AERO ..) address those key objectives 
around mobile user-plane optimization, else there is no reason for the WG to 
consider that specific protocol option. So, please do include this text in the 
I-D, and/or explain to the WG on how its addressing these issues.

WG - Please review AERO specs, along with the other proposals.




Sri



On 2/2/18, 7:40 AM, "Templin, Fred L" <fred.l.temp...@boeing.com> wrote:

>Hi, please add AERO to the list:
>
>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__datatracker.ietf.o
>rg_doc_draft-2Dtemplin-2Daerolink_=DwICAg=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3
>mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ=IdiSODh8aDRjdCeGgd9MznLHMYKgKcs_YSwXBDiaofh47oilza
>XYRYETcBynUdpT=sCHryEZFtc7CtEHHHDax7-Ae9uuwPgGWuYf9-O1T12w=HIFgnfSr
>nLv7H1FRiA_sivkZ6tqIQkBDmLgnGi9logQ=
>
>AERO does IPv6 ND over tunnels, and supports mobility via dynamic 
>neighbor cache updates the same as any IPv6 link. Use cases include 
>(but are not limited to):
>
>- Enterprise mobile devices (cellphones, tablets, etc. as mobile 
>networks)
>- civil aviation networks (airplanes as mobile networks)
>- Unmanned Air Systems (drones as mobile networks)
>
>AERO has been discussed in this forum several years back, and has 
>continued to mature since that time. Maybe now is the time to start 
>talking about it again.
>
>Thanks - Fred
>

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