BTW I think nobody here cares about having Devuan support Gnome. The
do-it-all DEs,
those providing their own integrated replacement for every application,
are, by design,
opposed to the Nix principles. It is not a surprise that systemd and Gnome
are working
together.
I would say +1
I would say +1 for everything that is written with this e-mail and above.
However, there's one thing here,
there are more people running servers than people running linux on their
desktops, so IMHO devuan should first focus on the servers.
I strongly believe that if we manage to pull
On 20.02.2015 12:54, Aldemir Akpinar wrote:
BTW I think nobody here cares about having Devuan support Gnome.
The do-it-all DEs,
those providing their own integrated replacement for every
application, are, by design,
opposed to the Nix principles. It is not a
Concerning dbus, there is a need for publisher/subscriber communication on
the desktop. But I wonder why people have developped dbus instead of using
a ready-made, well-tested, lightweight, language-agnostic middleware? Yes
it exsts; there's at least one, ZeroMQ.
Something something context
Hello folks,
Good news on the logind front! I got the pre-alpha to play nicely with LoginKit
instead of logind.
http://i.imgur.com/1PTI6L5.png
LoginKit (https://git.devuan.org/pkgs-utopia-substitution/loginkit) is an
attempt to develop a shim that provides the parts of logind and libsystemd
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:06:44 +
David Harrison da...@olansa.co.uk wrote:
Perhaps someone from Devuan could approach xfce's core developers and
confirm they're not about to spot-weld themselves to systemd any time
soon? They seem approachable enough. I'm happy to ask but as a non-dev
my
Congratulations Dima! This is wonderful news for the future of Devuan!
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Dima Krasner d...@dimakrasner.com wrote:
Hello folks,
Good news on the logind front! I got the pre-alpha to play nicely with
LoginKit instead of logind.
http://i.imgur.com/1PTI6L5.png
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 09:08:56PM +0100, Godefridus Daalmans wrote:
About that error with the mdev packaging:
if you purge udev, does that mean you need the old-fashioned /dev/MAKEDEV
script back to create the device nodes?
it's in Debian package makedev. and it says Conflicts: udev, but
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 07:09:28PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Isaac Dunham ibid...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 06:21:27PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
wrote:
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Isaac Dunham ibid...@gmail.com
On Fri, 2015-02-20 at 14:32 -0500, Gravis wrote:
RPC had already been solved in a general way by SunRPC (ONCRPC) before
either GNOME or KDE existed
interesting I'd never read about those until now. however, there was no
GPL (compatible?) version for Linux (still isn't?) and the internet
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 04:27:55PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/
Somehow, this inspired me to poke at packaging mdev.
I don't have a website or apt repository atm, so I can't provide a deb.
But here's the source in git:
* On 2015 20 Feb 09:03 -0600, Didier Kryn wrote:
Guys, I don't think there is contradiction between server and
desktop. There is a difference in the user base and installed
applications, not in the OS. dbus and udev/eudev/mdev/vdev/ are just
useful services which make life easier if they
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:36:20AM -0500, william moss wrote:
FreeBSD supports XFCE Via its package manager (pkg) or /usr/ports, so it
must be possible to run XFCE w/o the systemd daemon(s) or shared objects.
Also, I configured server farms for decades (retired now) and a simple
GUI was
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Isaac Dunham ibid...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 04:27:55PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/
Somehow, this inspired me to poke at packaging mdev.
I don't have a website or apt
dear Isaac,
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015, Isaac Dunham wrote:
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 04:27:55PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/
Somehow, this inspired me to poke at packaging mdev.
I don't have a website or apt repository atm, so I
CDE (common desktop environment)
Not familiar with that. Is it related to Inferno?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Desktop_Environment
now what is Inferno?
--Gravis
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com
wrote:
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:36:20AM -0500,
isaac i get cannot stat /etc/modprobe.d/* when doing the
update-initramfs -u, hope that's ok...
SPLAT :) dozens of unknown user/group root:root on line 20 ... about
100 of those...
Gave up on ... hang on let me take a screenshot...
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On 02/20/2015 09:30 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote:
* On 2015 20 Feb 05:55 -0600, Aldemir Akpinar wrote:
I would say +1 for everything that is written with this e-mail and above.
However, there's one thing here,
there are more people running servers
We all knew this was coming . . .
KDE Will Depend on 'logind' and 'timedated' in 6 Months
https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/02/20/101235
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I've dabbled with FreeBSD and OpenIndiana VMs lately: xfce worked just
as well on those as in Linux.
Was doing a little reading yesterday. Apparently a new point release is
imminent, which is good news considering xfce's slow pace of releases
(if not development). The lovely Whisker menu has
hi David,
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015, David Harrison wrote:
Perhaps someone from Devuan could approach xfce's core developers
and confirm they're not about to spot-weld themselves to systemd any
time soon?
good idea, for future orientation
They seem approachable enough. I'm happy to ask but as a
On 21 February 2015 06:13:29 CET, Jude Nelson jud...@gmail.com wrote:
Congratulations Dima! This is wonderful news for the future of Devuan!
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Dima Krasner d...@dimakrasner.com
wrote:
Hello folks,
Good news on the logind front! I got the pre-alpha to play
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:42:43PM -0500, Gravis wrote:
CDE (common desktop environment)
Not familiar with that. Is it related to Inferno?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Desktop_Environment
now what is Inferno?
Long answer:
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Isaac Dunham ibid...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 04:30:17PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
I should have a fix soon.
awesome.
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Go Linux goli...@yahoo.com wrote:
We all knew this was coming . . .
KDE Will Depend on 'logind' and 'timedated' in 6 Months
https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/02/20/101235
This is precisely what I'd expect from the KDE project. They were
Nevertheless, RPC had already been solved in a general way by SunRPC
(ONCRPC) before either GNOME or KDE existed. Heck, the earliest versions
predate Linux.
Given the combined functionality offered by PolicyKit/Polkit and dbus, I'm
beginning to think that FreeDesktop has succeeded in
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:42:43PM -0500, Gravis wrote:
CDE (common desktop environment)
Not familiar with that. Is it related to Inferno?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Desktop_Environment
That's it. By the way, it does work on Debian (though I'm not sure if the
sysvinit script
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Isaac Dunham ibid...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 06:21:27PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Isaac Dunham ibid...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 04:30:17PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 06:21:27PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Isaac Dunham ibid...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 04:30:17PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
wrote:
I should have a fix soon.
awesome.
And pushed.
HTH,
RPC had already been solved in a general way by SunRPC (ONCRPC) before
either GNOME or KDE existed
interesting I'd never read about those until now. however, there was no
GPL (compatible?) version for Linux (still isn't?) and the internet didn't
have it's information as organized back then.
About that error with the mdev packaging:
if you purge udev, does that mean you need the old-fashioned
/dev/MAKEDEV script back to create the device nodes?
it's in Debian package makedev. and it says Conflicts: udev, but that
doesn't mean it gets re-installed automagically after udev is
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