Re: [Dng] Debian Dev: anti-systemd people hate women; thus respectable people should not support anti-systemd stance.

2015-05-02 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 2 May 2015 09:03:30 -0700 "DLL Hell" wrote: > For some reason the men in the Linux community who hate women the > most seem to have taken a dislike to systemd. I understand that being > “conservative” might mean not wanting changes to software as well as > not wanting changes to inequali

[Dng] I used Devuan's debootstrap and installed Devuan. :)

2015-05-02 Thread Edward Bartolo
The command I used: debootstrap --arch amd64 jessie /mnt/sda8 http://packages.devuan.org/merged /mnt/sda8 is the partition where Devuan was installed. I will now start testing Devuan. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.o

Re: [Dng] still failing to install Devuan through debootstrap

2015-05-02 Thread James Powell
Has there been any inkling yet of a Devuan iso or bootdisk that we can unpack something similar to a Gentoo-like stage3 tarball that needs minimal configuring? -Jim > Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 18:47:46 +0200 > From: arya...@chello.at > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Subject: Re: [Dng] still failing to in

Re: [Dng] Debian Dev: anti-systemd people hate women; thus respectable people should not support anti-systemd stance.

2015-05-02 Thread James Powell
Sorry, for my input here, but the title says nothing but laughable bullshit. There is no evidence anywhere scientific or not that being anti-systemd makes you a woman hater. I'm anti-systemd and have been happily married for 12 years. This seems more of a spin mastering by radicals wanting to pu

Re: [Dng] Debian Dev: anti-systemd people hate women; thus respectable people should not support anti-systemd stance.

2015-05-02 Thread Isaac Dunham
Well, I'll comment on a couple points, since the material you quoted is rather misleading at best. Full disclosure: My only associations with the VUA are (1) subscribing to this list; (2) using the devuan repositories, and (3) having an account on the devuan gitlab, which I have only used to mirro

Re: [Dng] [dng] vdev status updates

2015-05-02 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
On Sat 02 May 2015 11:01:07 Laurent Bercot wrote: > > So there are very good reasons for keeping the classic/standard layout. > > The reasons you gave so far are pretty minor. The reasons you gave for *changing* stuff are negligible so far: iirc it was a "shorter PATH which would benefit some

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Re: [Dng] still failing to install Devuan through debootstrap

2015-05-02 Thread Anto
On 02/05/15 16:23, Nextime wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Sorry for top posting, i'm from smartphone. The right repo to be used is packages.devuan.org/merged to have a full filled repository - -- nextime -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: APG v1.1.1 iHIEAREKADIFA

[Dng] Debian Dev: anti-systemd people hate women; thus respectable people should not support anti-systemd stance.

2015-05-02 Thread DLL Hell
etbe.coker.com.au/2015/04/26/anti-systemd-people/ Anti-Systemd People For the Technical People This post isn’t really about technology, I’ll cover the technology briefly skip to the next section if you aren’t interested in Linux programming or system administration. I’ve been using the Systemd

Re: [Dng] still failing to install Devuan through debootstrap

2015-05-02 Thread Nextime
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On May 2, 2015 9:05:20 AM CEST, Edward Bartolo wrote: >I downloaded debootstrap's source from: >https://git.devuan.org/packages-base/debootstrap and built a .deb >package on Debian Testing. Then, I used the freshly installed >debootstrap to install

Re: [Dng] [dng] vdev status updates

2015-05-02 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 11:42:24PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > > Le 30/04/2015 20:16, John Morris a écrit : > >The FHS was carefully designed to accomodate things like NFS root, > >readonly NFS mounting of parts of the system, mandating things like > >*/share/ to only contain arch neutral data, e

Re: [Dng] still failing to install Devuan through debootstrap

2015-05-02 Thread David Hare
On 02/05/15 08:05, Edward Bartolo wrote: I downloaded debootstrap's source from: https://git.devuan.org/packages-base/debootstrap and built a .deb package on Debian Testing. Then, I used the freshly installed debootstrap to install Devuan as follows: # debootstrap --arch amd64 jessie /mnt/sda8 h

Re: [Dng] [dng] FS structure: Was vdev status updates

2015-05-02 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 02/05/2015 10:52, marc...@welz.org.za a écrit : > >Now as for other assertions in this thread that the FHS itself is > >obsolete and violations of it should not be considered a bad thing, just > >no. > > I don't think anyone said that. I did. Shame on me. Didier

Re: [Dng] [dng] FS structure: Was vdev status updates

2015-05-02 Thread Laurent Bercot
On 02/05/2015 10:52, marc...@welz.org.za wrote: ... confusing - it is unclear if he is arguing that departures from the standard should be entertained or not. I am arguing that FHS includes good things and bad things, and that good things should be followed and bad things should not. In other

Re: [Dng] [dng] vdev status updates

2015-05-02 Thread Laurent Bercot
On 02/05/2015 09:43, marc...@welz.org.za wrote: 0700 for root-only binaries would hide them from your shell's autocompletion. Which would be lots of stat() system calls. If a shell doesn't make them, then it doesn't verify that a file is executable either. (I just checked with zsh: it do

Re: [Dng] [dng] FS structure: Was vdev status updates

2015-05-02 Thread marcxdv
Me again So I am going to quote Laurent a bit out of order, sorry about that, but it seems the best way to explain things: > >Now as for other assertions in this thread that the FHS itself is > >obsolete and violations of it should not be considered a bad thing, just > >no. > > I don't think an

Re: [Dng] still failing to install Devuan through debootstrap

2015-05-02 Thread Anto
On 02/05/15 09:05, Edward Bartolo wrote: I downloaded debootstrap's source from: https://git.devuan.org/packages-base/debootstrap and built a .deb package on Debian Testing. Then, I used the freshly installed debootstrap to install Devuan as follows: # debootstrap --arch amd64 jessie /mnt/sda8

Re: [Dng] [dng] vdev status updates

2015-05-02 Thread marcxdv
> On 30/04/2015 22:35, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: > >exactly this PATH issue is what I expect and appreciate here: I do NOT > >expect > >command autocompletion of normal user to get confused by command names that > >are not supposed to even be in user's PATH > > 0700 for root-only binaries would h

Re: [Dng] still failing to install Devuan through debootstrap

2015-05-02 Thread Edward Bartolo
I downloaded debootstrap's source from: https://git.devuan.org/packages-base/debootstrap and built a .deb package on Debian Testing. Then, I used the freshly installed debootstrap to install Devuan as follows: # debootstrap --arch amd64 jessie /mnt/sda8 http://packages.devuan.org/devuan W: Cannot