Re: [DNG] Offtopic: pointed messages?

2015-08-24 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 08:02:35AM +0100, Simon Hobson wrote: Mitt mitt_gr...@yahoo.com wrote: I noticed that my messages are not pointed to those who they are sent to. See image https://imgur.com/J4UaT7D Are you referring to the fact that it's not shown in it's place in the tree

[DNG] shutdown is there for one user, not for another

2015-08-24 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 09:32:11AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 12:26:16AM +0200, adamdm wrote: I can't shutdown Devuan from xfce, the button is just disabled... Am I missing something? When I first installed devuan from alpha2, just a bit over a week ago, the

[DNG] xfce has logout icon but no login/suspend/shutdown menu

2015-08-24 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 12:26:16AM +0200, adamdm wrote: I can't shutdown Devuan from xfce, the button is just disabled... Am I missing something? When I first installed devuan from alpha2, just a bit over a week ago, the shutdown button was there, and worked. Actually, there was a word at

[DNG] libpam-systemd

2015-08-24 Thread Hendrik Boom
Is libpam-systemd needed by devuan? Because that's the only package I have installed that would be broken by removing systemd itself. Since it appears to have something do do with authentication, I'm concerned that I may not be able to log in after I've removed it to undo damage. -- hendrik

Re: [DNG] libpam-systemd

2015-08-24 Thread iguleder
We already took care of it, using amprolla overrides. Affected packages are xfce4-power-manager and xfce4-session. Both recommend it. On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:15:35 +0300 Hendrik Boomlt;hend...@topoi.pooq.comgt; wrote Is libpam-systemd needed by devuan? Because that's the only package

Re: [DNG] libpam-systemd

2015-08-24 Thread Riccardo Boninsegna
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote: Is libpam-systemd needed by devuan? Because that's the only package I have installed that would be broken by removing systemd itself. Since it appears to have something do do with authentication, I'm concerned that I

Re: [DNG] shutdown is there for one user, not for another

2015-08-24 Thread Riccardo Boninsegna
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote: I Have a lock screen/suspend/shutdown/logout menu on the right end of the top icon panel. Only the 'switch user' item is greyed out. From my own account, which was copied from Debian Jessie, I have only a logout

Re: [DNG] xfce not shutting down on Devuan

2015-08-24 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 05:53:53 +0100 Edward Bartolo edb...@gmail.com wrote: On 24/08/2015, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 00:26:16 +0200 adamdm ada...@trueleet.com wrote: I can't shutdown Devuan from xfce, the button is just disabled... Am I missing

Re: [DNG] libpam-systemd

2015-08-24 Thread Irrwahn
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 09:15:35 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: Is libpam-systemd needed by devuan? Because that's the only package I have installed that would be broken by removing systemd itself. Since it appears to have something do do with authentication, I'm concerned that I may not be able

Re: [DNG] Offtopic: pointed messages?

2015-08-24 Thread Simon Hobson
Mitt mitt_gr...@yahoo.com wrote: I noticed that my messages are not pointed to those who they are sent to. See image https://imgur.com/J4UaT7D Are you referring to the fact that it's not shown in it's place in the tree like the rest of the messages ? If so, then that's because your mails

Re: [DNG] xfce not shutting down on Devuan

2015-08-24 Thread iguleder
AFAIK pm-utils should be enough, but make sure you restart Xfce. On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:22:31 +0300 Edward Bartolo lt;edb...@gmail.comgt; wrote If that is the case, how do I get the 'suspend' and 'hibernate' buttons? I have pm-utils installed and I am using Devuan 64 bit. On

Re: [DNG] frontend GUI implementation

2015-08-24 Thread Edward Bartolo
The line number is 117. On 24/08/2015, Edward Bartolo edb...@gmail.com wrote: I have just discovered a BUG in the frontend. When the frontend is invoked through the use of a launcher, the backend's environment path will not be the directory to which the front end and backend are installed.

Re: [DNG] frontend GUI implementation

2015-08-24 Thread Edward Bartolo
I have just discovered a BUG in the frontend. When the frontend is invoked through the use of a launcher, the backend's environment path will not be the directory to which the front end and backend are installed. This is not the case if the launcher is copied to the directory containing the

Re: [DNG] xfce not shutting down on Devuan

2015-08-24 Thread Riccardo Boninsegna
Il 24/ago/2015 09:50 AM, iguleder d...@dimakrasner.com ha scritto: AFAIK pm-utils should be enough, but make sure you restart Xfce. On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:22:31 +0300 Edward Bartolo edb...@gmail.com wrote If that is the case, how do I get the 'suspend' and 'hibernate' buttons? I

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-24 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl writes: Today on #debconf: 20:11 paultag devuan can pick a fight once they release 20:11 paultag Hell, they can pick a fight once they stop installing systemd by default Technically, this is a threat: Should Devuan ever release something, an event I don't

Re: [DNG] xfce not shutting down on Devuan

2015-08-24 Thread aitor_czr
I still have not tested Xfce in Devuan, i will do it as soon as possible. Aitor. On 24/08/15 10:11, Edward Bartolo edb...@gmail.com wrote: If that is the case, how do I get the 'suspend' and 'hibernate' buttons? I have pm-utils installed and I am using Devuan 64 bit. On 24/08/2015,

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-24 Thread Simon Hobson
Svante Signell svante.sign...@gmail.com wrote: See above, the DNG mailing list is mostly full of discussions and not much actions, except for from a few people. That is the impression I'd got as well. Now I'll preface the next bit with ... this is not meant to be an insult or criticism, so

Re: [DNG] xfce not shutting down on Devuan

2015-08-24 Thread James Powell
Xfce requires ConsoleKit or ConsoleKit2 and the startup ran with the flag startxfce --with-ck-launch. From: iguledermailto:d...@dimakrasner.com Sent: ‎8/‎23/‎2015 11:48 PM To: adamdmmailto:ada...@trueleet.com Cc: dng@lists.dyne.orgmailto:dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] xfce not shutting down on Devuan

2015-08-24 Thread Edward Bartolo
If that is the case, how do I get the 'suspend' and 'hibernate' buttons? I have pm-utils installed and I am using Devuan 64 bit. On 24/08/2015, iguleder d...@dimakrasner.com wrote: apt-get update;apt-get -y upgrade I've spent many nights debugging power/session management issues in Xfce on

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-24 Thread Jaromil
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015, Rainer Weikusat wrote: could thus considered to be a bait, what was the point, exactly? ehehehe, exactly BTW on the bright side, yesterday I did something quite daring went switching from Debian wheezy to Devuan jessie on a production machine which runs with an LVM raid

Re: [DNG] frontend GUI implementation

2015-08-24 Thread tilt!
Ok, got the line number - but where's the code :-D On 08/24/2015 10:11 AM, Edward Bartolo wrote: The line number is 117. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] frontend GUI implementation

2015-08-24 Thread Edward Bartolo
It is in an earlier reply in this same email thread: 23 August 2015 at 16:49 Malta time which should be equal to Germany time. On 24/08/2015, tilt! t...@linuxfoo.de wrote: Ok, got the line number - but where's the code :-D On 08/24/2015 10:11 AM, Edward Bartolo wrote: The line number is 117.

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-24 Thread Svante Signell
On Sun, 2015-08-23 at 23:06 +0200, Svante Signell wrote: On Sun, 2015-08-23 at 20:34 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: Today on #debconf: 20:11 paultag devuan can pick a fight once they release 20:11 paultag Hell, they can pick a fight once they stop installing systemd by default 20:11

[DNG] shutdown is there for one user, not for another

2015-08-24 Thread aitor_czr
Adding or removing an user in the system affects also to other files like /etc/group, /etc/gshadow, /etc/subuid and /etc/subgid. Aitor. El 24/08/15 a las 17:48, Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com escribió: Then I copied /home/hendrik from my old Debian jessie installation, put my login

Re: [DNG] shutdown is there for one user, not for another

2015-08-24 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 03:29:31AM +0200, aitor_czr wrote: Adding or removing an user in the system affects also to other files like /etc/group, /etc/gshadow, /etc/subuid and /etc/subgid. Forgot about those. Thanks. -- hendrik Aitor. El 24/08/15 a las 17:48, Hendrik Boom

[DNG] wpa_supplicant/ifup integration documentation

2015-08-24 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 10:28:45PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: I would also like to know what your understanding is of how the things are handled by the cooperative interaction of ifup, ifdown and wpa_supplicant. This is something for which I cannot find a comprehensive description, and I

Re: [DNG] shutdown is there for one user, not for another

2015-08-24 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 25/08/15 13:32, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 03:29:31AM +0200, aitor_czr wrote: Adding or removing an user in the system affects also to other files like /etc/group, /etc/gshadow, /etc/subuid and /etc/subgid. Forgot about those. Thanks. Actually no don't, atleast

Re: [DNG] xfce not shutting down on Devuan

2015-08-24 Thread aitor_czr
Perhaps oblogout coult be adapted to Xfce. Aitor. On 24/08/15 17:48, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 05:53:53 +0100 Edward Bartoloedb...@gmail.com wrote: On 24/08/2015, Steve Littsl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 00:26:16 +0200