Re: [DNG] I've got the automounter running

Am Montag, 28. Dezember 2015 schrieb Hendrik Boom: > On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 08:54:29PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 19:37:08 +0100, Didier wrote in message > > <56818154.2070...@in2p3.fr>: > > > > > Le 28/12/2015 19:22, Simon Hobson a écrit : > > > > The cache gets written

Re: [DNG] I've got the automounter running

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 01:29:29PM +, Simon Hobson wrote: > A couple of years ago, I surprised a group I'd given a presentation to by > "Safely removing" hardware before I yanked my USB stick ! Yeah. I noticed a tech savvy friend of mine yanking his flash drive whenever he pleases. I told

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

nano/vim both get installed before tasksel starts up but yeah really only one editor is needed for system configs On Monday, December 28, 2015 8:35 PM, Mitt Green wrote: >> No, no, no. If you install vim* you also have to install emacs. Keep >> nano as default

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

I usually only use tasksel when setting up for others, but my idea of a light setup is the desktop itself, ristretto image viewer, and iceweasel and the mixer panel plugin (if that's not broke altogether) Adding things like libreoffice, the gimp, and a document viewer for pdf (but without

Re: [DNG] Name of the thumb drive automounter

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 08:19:45PM -0300, Emiliano Marini wrote: > amountd LOL Of course. After all, it is a demon. But if it's a demmon that does mnt, perhaps it should be amntd? -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Name of the thumb drive automounter

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 08:53:10PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 08:19:45PM -0300, Emiliano Marini wrote: > > amountd LOL > > Of course. After all, it is a demon. > > But if it's a demmon that does mnt, perhaps it should be amntd? Sorry for the noise. Cancel that. I

Re: [DNG] Name of the thumb drive automounter

On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 20:19:45 -0300 Emiliano Marini wrote: > amountd LOL True story, I named the program to control it amtctl.py. I'll be dang if I'm going to let Lennart squat on a whole set of names. Steve Jobs has the clout to do that, not Lennart. SteveT Steve

Re: [DNG] Name of the thumb drive automounter

the 'd' would be a little annoying, but many programs use a joke in the name I thought a-mount because it's similar to pmount and would not seem out of place On Monday, December 28, 2015 11:19 PM, Emiliano Marini wrote: > amountd LOL > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at

Re: [DNG] Name of the thumb drive automounter

I still prefer JAAM though... :P On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 9:07 PM, dev1fanboy wrote: > the 'd' would be a little annoying, but many programs use a joke in the > name > > I thought a-mount because it's similar to pmount and would not seem out of > place > > On Monday,

Re: [DNG] I've got the automounter running

Is it safe to assume you're going to commit this to the Devuan repo? Linux O'Beardly @LinuxOBeardly http://o.beard.ly linux.obear...@gmail.com On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > I have the automounter running, incompletioncies and all.

Re: [DNG] I've got the automounter running

Le 28/12/2015 03:03, Steve Litt a écrit : Hi all, I have the automounter running, incompletioncies and all. It's running off of Runit, but I'm sure it would work with sysvinit or /etc/rc.local or pretty much anything else. Assuming you don't actually edit anything, when you plug in a thumb

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

Hi, On 12/28/2015 02:07 AM, Go Linux e.org wrote: It's quite a long list. If you see anything in there you can live without, please post to the issue on git #apt-cache show task-xfce-desktop #apt-cache show xfce4-goodies dev1fanboy has a minimal list posted here:

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

I'd suggest to have the following applications by default (by categories from Applications Menu): 1) Accessories: xarchiver, xfce4-appfinder, mousepad; 2) Games: xlennart :) 3) Graphics: ristretto; 4) Internet: iceweasel, transmission-gtk, xchat, netman or dhcpcd-gtk; 5) Multimedia: parole,

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 12:44:36 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > This is the result of the Debian policy of installing a maximum of > packages because it's free. I'm not saying this against libreoffice; I > use it sometimes but not on all hosts. I bet more than half the packages >

Re: [DNG] Devuan is "honourably" mentioned

"or if the systemd opponents will learn to accept it." What obsequious piece of text. On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Mitt Green wrote: > A transcript from (the latest) Debian Handbook: > > A.9. Devuan > Devuan is a relatively new fork of Debian: it started in 2014

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 06:59:31 -0500 Mitt Green wrote: > And also I'd go with vim-tiny as it is really close to the original and > without nano by default. And make sure it is in /sbin, so it is accessible when the boot process aborts, and /usr is not mounted ;-3(

Re: [DNG] I've got the automounter running

Didier Kryn wrote: > There remains a fundamental problem with automatic mount/umount. While > automounting is safe, auto-unmounting is not if it is triggered by device > removal. > Unmounting must be done *before* removing the device if anything has been > written to it,

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 09:20:05AM -0500, Mitt Green wrote: > Adam Borowski wrote: > > >Note that xfce4 in unstable doesn't support alsa anymore as sound platform > >agnostic xfce4-mixer has been dropped. The replacement, > >xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin, is pulseaudio only. > > I reckon it haven't

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

On Mon, 12/28/15, Mitt Green wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite To: "Go Linux" Cc: "dng@lists.dyne.org" Date: Monday, December 28, 2015, 5:59 AM > > I am currently using file-roller and evince from

Re: [DNG] I've got the automounter running

On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 09:03:35PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: [cut] > > Finally, I'd prefer this program run as a user other than root (which > it's doing right now). > Hi Steve, in Debian/Devuan and derivatives it might be sufficient to have your automounter run under a user which belongs

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

Adam Borowski wrote: >Note that xfce4 in unstable doesn't support alsa anymore as sound platform >agnostic xfce4-mixer has been dropped. The replacement, >xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin, is pulseaudio only. I reckon it haven't really dropped yet, there is 4.11 version in Experimental, one day it may

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 11:16:17 +0100 aitor_czr wrote: > Hi, > > On 12/28/2015 02:07 AM, Go Linux e.org wrote: > > It's quite a long list. If you see anything in there you can live > > without, please post to the issue on git > > > > #apt-cache show

Re: [DNG] I've got the automounter running

On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 12:20:01 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > Congratulations, Steve. > > There remains a fundamental problem with automatic mount/umount. > While automounting is safe, auto-unmounting is not if it is triggered > by device removal. Unmounting must be done

Re: [DNG] I've got the automounter running

On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 11:20:33 -0500 Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 05:17:01PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > > Le 28/12/2015 14:29, Simon Hobson a écrit : > > >Didier Kryn wrote: > > > > > >>>There remains a fundamental problem with

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 09:20:05AM -0500, Mitt Green wrote: > Adam Borowski wrote: > > >Note that xfce4 in unstable doesn't support alsa anymore as sound platform > >agnostic xfce4-mixer has been dropped. The replacement, > >xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin, is pulseaudio only. > > I reckon it haven't

Re: [DNG] I've got the automounter running

Steve Litt wrote: > I did a test. I created hello.txt, put "hello world" in it, saved it, > and yanked out the thumb three seconds later. Of course the > whole /media/sdd1 tree vanished. When I plugged in the thumb again, > hello.txt contained exactly what I'd typed in

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 10:42:15 -0500 Hendrik Boom wrote: > Are there other window > managers we could use in the name of minimalism? There are approximately one million, three hundred and thirty two thousand, one hundred and ninety eight excellent window managers you can

Re: [DNG] I've got the automounter running

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 05:17:01PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 28/12/2015 14:29, Simon Hobson a écrit : > >Didier Kryn wrote: > > > >>>There remains a fundamental problem with automatic mount/umount. While > >>>automounting is safe, auto-unmounting is not if it is triggered by

Re: [DNG] I've got the automounter running

Le 28/12/2015 14:29, Simon Hobson a écrit : Didier Kryn wrote: >There remains a fundamental problem with automatic mount/umount. While automounting is safe, auto-unmounting is not if it is triggered by device removal. >Unmounting must be done*before* removing the device if

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 14:25:15 +0100 Adam Borowski wrote: > On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 11:16:17AM +0100, aitor_czr wrote: > > I propose a new package 'xfce4-default-settings' to customize the > > default appearance of the desktop in devuan. I also propose > > alsa-oss, > >

Re: [DNG] Name of the thumb drive automounter

amountd LOL On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 7:36 PM, dev1fanboy wrote: > only that "amount" (a-mount) would sound better > > > > On Monday, December 28, 2015 6:29 PM, Steve Litt < > sl...@troubleshooters.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > If anybody sees a compelling reason not

Re: [DNG] I've got the automounter running

Le 28/12/2015 19:22, Simon Hobson a écrit : The cache gets written out when the background system processes clean up and write the dirty pages out to disk. How long this takes depends on tuneable kernel parameters and how busy the system is. If the system, and in particular the storage, is

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

>xfce4-mixer and xfce4-volumed relying on this >interface with gstreamer0.10, our mixer >application and volume daemon cannot be ported >to 1.0 and are consequently not maintained >anymore. Heh, how do they think we are going manage our sound I wonder. Xfce has always been lacking a couple of

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 14:49:04 -0500 Mitt Green wrote: > golinux wrote: > > >I specifically asked what should be REMOVED from the default xfce > >desktop > > Nothing. Xfce even lack necessary components like pdf viewer and a > file archiver (xarchiver is not their

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 03:04:35PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 14:49:04 -0500 > Mitt Green wrote: > > > golinux wrote: > > > > >I specifically asked what should be REMOVED from the default xfce > > >desktop > > > > Nothing. Xfce even lack

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

> No, no, no. If you install vim* you also have to install emacs. Keep > nano as default editor! Editor war will never end even though everybody knows that vi(m) is the best.___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

[DNG] Name of the thumb drive automounter

Hi all, If anybody sees a compelling reason not to call the automounter "amounter", please speak now or forever hold your peace. SteveT Steve Litt November 2015 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques

Re: [DNG] Name of the thumb drive automounter

Well 'amounter' is somewhat generic in some waysI did come up with JAAM (Just an automounter) which sounds a bit more amusing and is also shorter. (It's at least amusing to me that is...). On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > If anybody

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

golinux wrote: >I specifically asked what should be REMOVED from the default xfce desktop Nothing. Xfce even lack necessary components like pdf viewer and a file archiver (xarchiver is not their project right? They had squeeze back then but it's no longer maintained now). >LaTex would be as

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

On Mon, 12/28/15, Steve Litt wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Monday, December 28, 2015, 2:04 PM On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 14:49:04 -0500 Mitt Green wrote: > golinux wrote: > > >I

Re: [DNG] I've got the automounter running

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 08:54:29PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 19:37:08 +0100, Didier wrote in message > <56818154.2070...@in2p3.fr>: > > > Le 28/12/2015 19:22, Simon Hobson a écrit : > > > The cache gets written out when the background system processes > > > clean up and

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

On 29/12/15 03:38, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 09:20:05AM -0500, Mitt Green wrote: >> Adam Borowski wrote: >> >>> Note that xfce4 in unstable doesn't support alsa anymore as sound platform >>> agnostic xfce4-mixer has been dropped. The replacement, >>> xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin,

Re: [DNG] I've got the automounter running

On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 19:37:08 +0100, Didier wrote in message <56818154.2070...@in2p3.fr>: > Le 28/12/2015 19:22, Simon Hobson a écrit : > > The cache gets written out when the background system processes > > clean up and write the dirty pages out to disk. How long this takes > > depends on

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

>This is something I never understood. Why expect your window >manager/desktop environment to give you functionalities? Why not >install them a-la-carte to get the exact system you want? Steve, I only suggested what should be installed by default and included on a proposed LiveCD. I think that a

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

On Mon, 2015-12-28 at 09:26 -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 06:59:31 -0500 > Mitt Green wrote: > > > And also I'd go with vim-tiny as it is really close to the original > > and without nano by default. > > And make sure it is in /sbin, so it is

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

Debian installer offers four major DEs as an option: GNOME, KDE, Xfce, LXDE. For a decade, I've been using Fluxbox as window manager. I have no intend to change any window manager over Fluxbox unless there is significant benefit from it. Debian users are scarce nowadays. Even in Debian

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 03:35:38PM -0500, Mitt Green wrote: > > No, no, no. If you install vim* you also have to install emacs. Keep > > nano as default editor! > > Editor war will never end even though everybody knows that vi(m) > is the best. That's a heresy! It's jstar (package joe) that's

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

Okay, will revise my other post.. If it's to be a lighter version, I suggest nearly everything should go but the desktop, a mixer, browser, document viewer, mousepad, and what's needed to automount and something that can play music maybe if that's already included in the non light version On

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

I give vi +1 for "being everywhere in unix" and nano +1 because I'm too lazy to learn vi On Monday, December 28, 2015 11:43 PM, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 03:35:38PM -0500, Mitt Green wrote: >> > No, no, no. If you install vim* you also have to install