Re: [DNG] Ian Murdock

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/31/2015 12:25 AM, Go Linux wrote: > Perhaps Devuan should consider dedicating the Beta to Ian? I think it would be fitting if Devuan dedicated their first official release to him. R.I.P. Ian, you have inspired us all

Re: [DNG] Windowmaker: was Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 09:10:12 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 31/12/2015 01:13, richard lucassen a écrit : > > ... And every > > habit is fighting for its life;-) > > Thanks Richard for casting this sentence. It is true for many > things, text editor, programming language etc.

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

On 29/12/15 04:37, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 11:16:17 +0100 Your subject intrigues me. There are 2 reasons I prefer LXDE to Xfce: 1) LXDE is much lighter 2) LXDE is more reliable If you can really lighten up Xfce, that addresses #1, and probably to some extent alleviates #2. I

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 08:51:51AM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 30/12/2015 22:06, fsmithred a écrit : > >On 12/29/2015 09:30 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >>>I installed LXDE into my devuan alpha 2 system, but I do not know how > >>>to ask for it. My system boots into a green login screen and when

Re: [DNG] Ian Murdock

Franco Lanza writes: > I think we should release a communicate about Ian > to celebrate him and mourn he's death. I also think so. Ciao, Micky -- The sysadmin has all the answers, expecially "No" ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] Ian Murdock

Go Linux writes: > On Wed, 12/30/15, Franco Lanza wrote: > > Subject: [DNG] Ian Murdock > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 3:01 PM > > >> I think we should release a communicate about Ian >> to celebrate him and mourn

Re: [DNG] Windowmaker: was Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 02:47:35PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 09:46:04 +0100 > richard lucassen wrote: > > > Please do not forget WindowMaker which has been a lightweight, highly > > configurable and stable wm for many years. > > > > R. > > Hi

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

On 12/31/2015 03:47 AM, Simon Wise wrote: > > Personally I like Rox as a light file manager, it has its own unique > workflow which takes a little getting used to but after that it offers > a GUI interface that is very usable via keyboard alongside text > interfaces as well as via mouse and via

Re: [DNG] PXE boot files

On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 13:55:29 +0100 (CET) k...@aspodata.se wrote: > > Is there somewhere around an initrd.img and a vmlinuz to put on my > > PXE boot server in order to be able to do a netinstall from PXE? > > apt-get install syslinux > less /usr/share/doc/syslinux/pxelinux.txt.gz I mean this,

Re: [DNG] Ian Murdock

Go Linux writes: > Perhaps Devuan should consider dedicating the Beta to Ian? After all > Devuan it the true lineage of Debian IMO. Good idea! Ciao, Micky -- The sysadmin has all the answers, expecially "No" ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] Ian Murdock

On 2015-12-31 09:05, info at smallinnovations.nl wrote: I support to dedicate the first stable Devuan to Ian. Not a beta which will hopefully have a shorter lifetime then stable. grtz Nick +1 -- Stop slacking you lazy bum! ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] Ian Murdock

On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 05:32:12AM +0100, aitor_czr wrote: > On 12/31/2015 12:25 AM, Go Linux wrote: > >Perhaps Devuan should consider dedicating the Beta to Ian? > > They did so with debian lenny when Thiemo Seufer died. > > Aitor. I agree. I vote to dedicate the first

Re: [DNG] Ian Murdock

I agree to both: release a communicate now and dedicate to him the first beta or stable release. Alberto On 31/12/15 10:46, Micky Del Favero wrote: Franco Lanza writes: I think we should release a communicate about Ian to celebrate him and mourn he's death. I also think

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

On 12/28/2015 12:37 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 11:16:17 +0100 > aitor_czr wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On 12/28/2015 02:07 AM, Go Linux e.org wrote: >>> It's quite a long list. If you see anything in there you can live >>> without, please post

Re: [DNG] PXE boot files

Richard: > Is there somewhere around an initrd.img and a vmlinuz to put on my PXE > boot server in order to be able to do a netinstall from PXE? apt-get install syslinux less /usr/share/doc/syslinux/pxelinux.txt.gz Regards, /Karl Hammar

Re: [DNG] Ian Murdock

I support to dedicate the first stable Devuan to Ian. Not a beta which will hopefully have a shorter lifetime then stable. grtz Nick ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] PXE boot files

Hello list, Is there somewhere around an initrd.img and a vmlinuz to put on my PXE boot server in order to be able to do a netinstall from PXE? R. -- ___ It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak aloud and

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 18:32:34 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > Except for Thunar's hit and miss handling of media like thumb drives > and CDs, do you have anything against it? I have forgotten the details, but I do remember that when I came to Debian from another

Re: [DNG] Ummmm, no

>Still can't understand why so much stuff about systemd seems to allude >to it being started as a personal project by LP & KS. Is that actually >the case, or was it initiated and paid for by RH (as I suspect) ? From what I've read, systemd began as kind of hobby, a side project, and wasn't

Re: [DNG] meta-comment re. build systems

Nate Bargmann wrote: > Hi Miles, et. al. > > As an upstream developer/maintainer and downstream user of packages both > locally built and packaged, I've come to the conclusion that, at least > in the case of Debian, building from source is for "those who know what > they are doing." On the one

Re: [DNG] Ian Murdock

Please excuse me, I know many of you can see this like a good tribute for Ian, but naming "Ian" to the first Devuan stable release could sound like using his name for the cause, at least for some evil-minded people. He was a big man for the Open Source community, so let him R.I.P. Please don't

Re: [DNG] Windowmaker: was Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 10:03:40 + KatolaZ wrote: > On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 02:47:35PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 09:46:04 +0100 > > richard lucassen wrote: > > > > > Please do not forget WindowMaker which has been a

[DNG] meta-comment re. build systems

I'm really not sure where to bring this up, but this seems like as good a place as any, as it's been looking for alternatives to Debian that has flagged this issue for me (other suggestions welcome). In looking at Devuan, and a few other non-systemd distros (Gentoo, FreeBSD, GUIXSD in

Re: [DNG] Windowmaker: was Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 06:11:15PM +, John Rigg wrote: > Right click on icon in top right corner to show launch menu for WindowMaker > graphical configuration tool. Launch tool. Scroll sideways to section you > want. Configure. Save. Forgot to add there's an online user guide at

Re: [DNG] meta-comment re. build systems

Hi Miles, et. al. As an upstream developer/maintainer and downstream user of packages both locally built and packaged, I've come to the conclusion that, at least in the case of Debian, building from source is for "those who know what they are doing." On the one hand, given the wide array of

Re: [DNG] Ummmm, no

On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 09:00:02 -0500 Mitt Green wrote: > What I find ridiculous is this statement: > "Our objectives: [...] Unifying pointless differences between > distributions [...]" That *is* ridiculous. So which is it: Are wall going to have rolling releases, or

Re: [DNG] Ian Murdock

On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 14:46:45 + Rainer Weikusat wrote: > Go Linux writes: > > > On Wed, 12/30/15, Franco Lanza wrote: > > > >> I think we should release a communicate about Ian > >> to celebrate him and mourn he's

Re: [DNG] Windowmaker: was Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 10:51:47AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > What's needed is a > good document to really explain the Windowmaker philosophy, how to do > things in Windowmaker, how to configure it so you don't need to > create a million menus to drill down, and how you set a hotkey to > perform

Re: [DNG] meta-comment re. build systems

On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 13:05:46 -0500 Miles Fidelman wrote: > I'm really not sure where to bring this up, but this seems like as > good a place as any, as it's been looking for alternatives to Debian > that has flagged this issue for me (other suggestions welcome). > >

Re: [DNG] Ummmm, no

Mitt Green wrote: > I reckon as long as his Fedora boots, he doesn't care. I think that's the key reason. Linus is concerned with the kernel - and while I suspect he has personal preferences about what is run on top of that, he's "detached" enough to take the

Re: [DNG] meta-comment re. build systems

* On 2015 31 Dec 14:53 -0600, Miles Fidelman wrote: > YUP - made it very clear, and I basically agree with delineation. I tend to > agree with Steve re. when to use, and not use, package management (and with > Joel's comment re. "checkinstall" making it easier to remove things > later. Another

Re: [DNG] meta-comment re. build systems

On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 15:51:10 -0500 Miles Fidelman wrote: > A follow-up question: What, if anything, do you guys include in the > way of init scripts? > > [My current observation is that systemd's biggest impact on my > operation is that it kind of breaks some

Re: [DNG] meta-comment re. build systems

Follow-on question at the bottom On 12/31/15 3:10 PM, Steve Litt wrote: I guess I'm an "upstream", being the originator of the VimOutliner project (probably a few thousand users), the UMENU project (probably about 10 users), the Amounter project (2 confirmed users), and several less-used

Re: [DNG] Ummmm, no

On 12/31/15 2:05 PM, Simon Hobson wrote: Mitt Green wrote: I reckon as long as his Fedora boots, he doesn't care. I think that's the key reason. Linus is concerned with the kernel - and while I suspect he has personal preferences about what is run on top of that,

Re: [DNG] Ummmm, no

* On 2015 31 Dec 14:53 -0600, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Can you say "kdbus?" That doesn't worry me much at this stage as unlike at the higher layers where SD support seems to result in support for certain other APIs being removed, the kernel has gained all sorts of features over the years that are