Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 17, Issue 12

Hi all, On 02/03/2016 08:30 AM, Mitt Green wrote: Edward Bartolo wrote: >I am suggesting this name: >nm-devuan for network manager Devuan. I don't think it should contain Devuan word in it, as long as people from other communities will probably use it too. netconman

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

Hi All, It nice to learn from trolls that my little "pitbull", netman, is a thorn deeply in their side. But, let us discuss the new name, so that users would find it more readily while searching the internet. Yes, trolls do not like this move which shows it is a good move. What about:

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

On 02/03/2016 08:30 AM, Mitt Green wrote: I don't think it should contain Devuan word in it, as long as people from other communities will probably use it too. +1 Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Bad UEFI: was Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

Simon Hobson writes: Or the third option - mount r/o and remount r/w when needed. IIRC you can switch an already mounted filesystem from r/o to r/w 'on the fly' (ie without unmounting it first) - is the reverse possible (ie change a r/w mount to r/o) ? Yes. mount -o remount,ro. I've done

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

The current name sounds decent, maybe you could host the tarballs on sf.net so people can find it there. On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 7:05 AM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi All, > > I did a google search for netman but I was presented with several > pages of results always

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

On 03/02/16 13:00, Florian Zieboll wrote: I was going to suggest GUIP (from gui and ip) Mmmh..., there is a backend which works without requiring any gui. Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

On Wed, 2016-02-03 at 08:05 +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi All, > > I did a google search for netman but I was presented with several > pages of results always pointing to other similarly named commercial > projects. Therefore, I am thinking about changing netman's name into a > unique name so

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

On 02/03/2016 05:48 AM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > What about: "nm-pitbull" in honour of the trolls? :D > The cat lovers among us might prefer Netmanx. Or... Edbarx Netmanx. fsr ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

On 03/02/16 13:00, fsmithred wrote: What about: "nm-pitbull" in honour of the trolls? :D > The cat lovers among us might prefer Netmanx. Or... Edbarx Netmanx. fsr I like 'Netmanx'. Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 11:48:43 +0100 Edward Bartolo wrote: > Thanks to all Trolls. > Your feedback is much appreciated. :D Ho Edward, actually I didn't want to share my first spontaneous idea, but now I kind of have to, although you sometimes seem to excessively like getting

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

On 03/02/2016 12:00, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: In exactly this sense: Let's leave "transmuting into organic fertilizer" to the fraudsters and break up this boring and somehow quite exhausted "network - connection - manager" triangle... +1 on "connection" and "manager"... Let's take a

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

On 03/09/2021 11:07 PM, aitor_czr wrote: On 03/02/16 13:00, Florian Zieboll wrote: I was going to suggest GUIP (from gui and ip) Mmmh..., there is a backend which works without requiring any gui. Aitor. Sorry, i'm sending messages from the future once again.

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

Hi, If the new name is not unique, it doesn't help much to rename netman as potential users will still find difficulty locating it. One particular reply suggested me to upload the source tarball to sf.net which is a good idea and which I am considering. I am trying to help potential users of

Re: [DNG] Bad UEFI: was Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

Steve Litt writes: > Rainer Weikusat wrote: > >> There are really only two options: >> >> 1. Don't mount or mount r/o and require user interfaction prior to >>working with these variables. >> >> 2. Mount r/w and expect people

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 04:36:36PM +, KatolaZ wrote: > On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 11:24:16AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > > > I suggest netwiz. Or ifwiz, which does not exist on google. I would > > > avoid ipwiz, since there apparently exists already a tool named ipwiz > > >

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 02:48:07PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: > > What about netmgr? The current name netman gives associations on having to do > with manual stuff. I like netmgr and netmanx. "mgr" is more suggestive of manager than "man" is. And netmanx is fun. But I think netmgr is more

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 14:50:46 +0100 aitor_czr wrote: > Sorry, i'm sending messages from the future once again. In that case, could you let us know what name was finally chosen ? ;-3) Cheers, Ron. -- Kilroe hic erat!

Re: [DNG] Bad UEFI: was Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

Steve Litt writes: > Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> There are really only two options: >> > [snip] >> >> 2. Mount r/w and expect people messing around with the fs as superuser >>to know what they're doing. > > Chefs know what they're

Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me

On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 08:04:26AM -0500, Haines Brown wrote: > I suspect I could remove the /lib/systemd/ directory entirely, and it > might block any systemd-udev from changing network interface name, and > systemd=logind from freezing user's frozen desktop. > > So let me ask: if I delete the

Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me

Haines Brown writes: > On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 08:04:26AM -0500, Haines Brown wrote: >> I suspect I could remove the /lib/systemd/ directory entirely, and it >> might block any systemd-udev from changing network interface name, and >> systemd=logind from freezing user's

Re: [DNG] Bad UEFI: was Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> Or the third option - mount r/o and remount r/w when needed. > > As I wrote in the original text, that's a extremely bad idea because > this means it may suddenly be affected by an already running command > never supposed to work with

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

netman was great. On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 10:50 AM, aitor_czr wrote: > On 03/09/2021 11:07 PM, aitor_czr wrote: > > On 03/02/16 13:00, Florian Zieboll > wrote: > > I was going to suggest GUIP (from gui and ip) > > > Mmmh..., there is a

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 03:41:53PM +0100, aitor_czr wrote: > On 02/03/2016 03:28 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >I like netmgr and netmanx. > > > >"mgr" is more suggestive of manager than "man" is. > > > >And netmanx is fun. But I think netmgr is more descriptive. > > > >--

Re: [DNG] Bad UEFI: was Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

Simon Hobson writes: > Rainer Weikusat wrote: > >> There are really only two options: >> >> 1. Don't mount or mount r/o and require user interfaction prior to >> working with these variables. >> >> 2. Mount r/w and expect people messing

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

On 02/03/2016 03:28 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: I like netmgr and netmanx. "mgr" is more suggestive of manager than "man" is. And netmanx is fun. But I think netmgr is more descriptive. -- hendrik My vote is for netmgr :) Aitor.

Re: [DNG] Bad UEFI: was Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

03.02.2016, 14:56, "Steve Litt" : > >  Let's talk about a minimal standard of safety as opposed to relying on >  "knowing what you're doing." > A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. I wouldn't have hesitated using 'rm -rf /' if I was going to remove all of the

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

If you are set on changing the name, maybe devuan network manager (DNM). Cheers, chillfan On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 7:05 AM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi All, > > I did a google search for netman but I was presented with several > pages of results always pointing to

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

I think having a web page associated with the sf.net account will help too, some simple html tricks might help it to come up a little bit in the google rankings, and maybe try the same for other search engines like duckduckgo if it won't hurt your google ranking to do so. It could be helpful

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

On 02/03/2016 04:41 PM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: Sorry, i'm sending messages from the future once again. In that case, could you let us know what name was finally chosen ? ;-3) Cheers, Ron. Very sharp :) Aitor.

Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me

On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 03:05:52PM +, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > Haines Brown writes: > > On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 08:04:26AM -0500, Haines Brown wrote: > > Not having received an answer, > > I answered both of your questions. My apologies. Your message for some reason did

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

My vote is also netmgr Best Regards | ISMAEL | - Original Message - From: aitor_czr To: Edward Bartolo ; Hendrik Boom ; dng Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name. On 02/03/2016 03:28 PM, Hendrik Boom

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 02:51:14PM +, KatolaZ wrote: > On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 03:41:53PM +0100, aitor_czr wrote: > > On 02/03/2016 03:28 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > >I like netmgr and netmanx. > > > > > >"mgr" is more suggestive of manager than "man" is. > > > > >

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 11:24:16AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: [cut] > > > > I suggest netwiz. Or ifwiz, which does not exist on google. I would > > avoid ipwiz, since there apparently exists already a tool named ipwiz > > for macosx. > > Ah. The interactive wizards that run your system for

[DNG] Vote for/against netman name change

Hi All, This mail thread is intended to collect votes regarding netman's name change. The question is: Do you agree to renaming netman? The answers should be YES and NO. No long replies needed, I will adhere to the outcome vote. The poll will be open until 11 February 2016. Edward

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 10:39:17PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > If the new name is not unique, it doesn't help much to rename netman > as potential users will still find difficulty locating it. You really want a name that lets an user googling for it show only related pages -- as this is what

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 09:54:53 +0100 aitor_czr wrote: > On 02/03/2016 08:30 AM, Mitt Green wrote: > > I don't think it should contain Devuan word in it, > > as long as people from other communities > > will probably use it too. > > +1 > > Aitor.

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 11:48:43 +0100 Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi All, > > It nice to learn from trolls that my little "pitbull", netman, is a > thorn deeply in their side. But, let us discuss the new name, so that > users would find it more readily while searching the internet.

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 12:40:25PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 09:54:53 +0100 > aitor_czr wrote: > > > On 02/03/2016 08:30 AM, Mitt Green wrote: > > > I don't think it should contain Devuan word in it, > > > as long as people from

Re: [DNG] Bad UEFI: was Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

Simon Hobson writes: > Rainer Weikusat wrote: > >>> Or the third option - mount r/o and remount r/w when needed. >> >> As I wrote in the original text, that's a extremely bad idea because >> this means it may suddenly be affected by an

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

Hi, > On 03/02/2016, KatolaZ wrote: > I still don't understand why you persist asking for feedback if then > you don't tolerate feedback that is not in line with what you > expect. Respondents are free to write clearly why they choose a name implying a joke or a pun. I

Re: [DNG] Bad UEFI: was Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

Rainer Weikusat writes: > Simon Hobson writes: [...] >> Just mounting r/w leaves us with the problem as already described. > > I see no problem with this Addition: IMHO, this should be a system-wide policy descision someone should