Re: [DNG] suspend and hybernate

On 13/04/16 09:27, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, What's the difference between suspend and hybernate? How can I achieve each condition from the command prompt? If I achieve each condition from the command prompt, how do I "wake up" the computer when I'm ready to use it again? In practical terms

[DNG] suspend and hybernate

Hi all, What's the difference between suspend and hybernate? How can I achieve each condition from the command prompt? If I achieve each condition from the command prompt, how do I "wake up" the computer when I'm ready to use it again? Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt April 2016 featured book:

Re: [DNG] suspend

On 2016/04/13 3:03, Jaromil wrote: Now if you like this project to thrive then please lower the aggression you also recognize as disruptive in other projects. Let go, ignore what is not interesting. Noone here needs an expert to give an opinion on every topic, even if mistakes are made. Even

Re: [DNG] suspend

On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 18:12:21 + (UTC) Go Linux wrote: > > There is a good reason that I have had Rainer's posts filtered > directly to delete for many months. Me too. > So none of this kerfuffle > reached my inbox. Nor my inbox > Others can of course do the same

[DNG] I have not seen any updates lately

Hi All, I run Devuan, as well as some ubuntu 12.04 and 14.04 boxes,and noticed many handfuls of updates over the past few weeks for Ubuntu but nothing for Devuan. Usually there is something that trickles down to Devuan when I notice a lot of Ubuntu updates so just wondering... Are we just

Re: [DNG] suspend

Arnt Gulbrandsen writes: > Rainer Weikusat writes: >> ... their OT posts / trolls / rants / 'news' items for just >> one month. > > It would be nice to have a bit less blahblah about random > systemd-related topics and a bit more about devuan. I've more or less > phased

Re: [DNG] suspend

On Tue, 4/12/16, Jaromil wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] suspend To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2016, 12:17 PM > dear Rainer, On Tue, 12 Apr 2016, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> Ehh ... you do realize that - for as long as people [...] > I don't understand the

Re: [DNG] suspend

On Tue, 12 Apr 2016, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > - I don't have so much spare time that I could seriously work on > something I don't need myself for 'street creds' alone (1 > day off per week, 51 weeks of work per year and on this > schedule since 2003) ok, same

Re: [DNG] suspend

Rainer Weikusat writes: ... their OT posts / trolls / rants / 'news' items for just one month. It would be nice to have a bit less blahblah about random systemd-related topics and a bit more about devuan. I've more or less phased out from the list because of that, actually. Arnt

Re: [DNG] suspend

Rainer Weikusat wrote: Ehh ... you do realize that - for as long as people like Mr Baum keeps posting his entirely pointless insults or the person hiding behind the moniker "GoLinux" keeps expatiating her inability to understand that she's not the center of the universe and that the

Re: [DNG] suspend

Jaromil writes: > dear Rainer, > > On Tue, 12 Apr 2016, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> Ehh ... you do realize that - for as long as people [...] > > I don't understand the origin of your frustration nor appreciate the > fact you are driving ad-personam attacks here, this being the

Re: [DNG] suspend

Rainer Weikusat writes: [...] > the chances that anybody would willingly endure this sorrily > typical "open source ***-fest" are terribly low? Elaborating a little on this: I'm subscribed to this list because I'm looking for a systemd-free upgrade path for my

Re: [DNG] suspend

dear Rainer, On Tue, 12 Apr 2016, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > Ehh ... you do realize that - for as long as people [...] I don't understand the origin of your frustration nor appreciate the fact you are driving ad-personam attacks here, this being the main reason why I'm writing this on-list. What

Re: [DNG] suspend

On Tue, 4/12/16, Boruch Baum wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] suspend To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2016, 2:38 AM No polkit but I did find these in /var/log/dpkg.log : policykit-1:i386 0.105-9+devuan1

Re: [DNG] suspend

Jaromil writes: > On Tue, 12 Apr 2016, Boruch Baum wrote: [...] >> I'll sweeten the deal: If the list doesn't match the challenge, I'll >> still do it if the 'usual' yentas on the list (you know who you are) can >> keep a lid on their OT posts / trolls / rants / 'news' items

[DNG] devuan-announce and devuan-discuss

On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 05:33:24PM +0200, Jaromil wrote: > > however, with the occasion of beta release, two lists will soon be > added to this list: devuan-announce and devuan-discuss. the latter > should be open discussion but only about devuan, while this list 'dng' > will stay as a more

Re: [DNG] suspend

On Tue, 12 Apr 2016, Boruch Baum wrote: > You're welcome. GoLinux's response may indicate that my problem is > NOT due to polkit. I'll explain in my response to him after I finish > writing this. I don't think she cares a lot about restating it every time, however Golinux is a woman. > OK. I'll

Re: [DNG] suspend

On Tue, 4/12/16, Boruch Baum wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] suspend To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2016, 2:38 AM > I'm assuming that when you installed devuan, you asked the installer to > install a desktop environment. > Yes, XFCE took care of

Re: [DNG] removing ftp:// from mirrors lists

On Tue, 12 Apr 2016, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Just got this on the debian boot list. > They are proposing shutting down ftp for package access. > Does that affect us? it doesn't, nextime's repo manager Amprolla relies on http/s thanks for noticing ciao

Re: [DNG] removing ftp:// from mirrors lists

Just got this on the debian boot list. They are proposing shutting down ftp for package access. Does that affect us? -- hendrik On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 07:10:38AM +, Peter Palfrader wrote: > Hi, > > talking to several mirror operators on IRC (including fewllow DSA > members), I get the

Re: [DNG] Ah, the joys of debugging SystemD

On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 04:54:32PM +0300, Jack L. Frost wrote: > > There should be no reaso systemd would not work like that. exec places it > right > at the top of the process tree. I'm now curious to test this. Will do later. Just tested: after booting with /bin/bash as init in a fresh

Re: [DNG] Ah, the joys of debugging SystemD

On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 02:32:27PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > NB: Just applying the init procedure to systemd based on the assumption > that it will work like a well-behaved UNIX(*) program should is - how > shall we say - a bit daring/ over-optimistic. There's presumably some > kind of

Re: [DNG] Ah, the joys of debugging SystemD

Simon Hobson writes: > I thought having a "big binary blob" wasn't supposed to be a problem ;-) > > http://lists.xen.org/archives/html/xen-users/2016-04/msg00031.html > >> [Xen-users] Debian 8.4, EFI, and systemd = Tricky >> ... >> My problem is that it hangs when trying

Re: [DNG] suspend

On 04/12/2016 08:41 AM, Mitt Green wrote: > Boruch Baum wrote: >> No improvement. > > ‎This requires, certainly, consolekit to be installed Check. But see below, final paragraph. > and. xinitrc with "startxfce4 --with-ck-launch" Hmm. I've got "exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch startxfce4".

Re: [DNG] suspend

Boruch Baum wrote: > No improvement. ‎This requires, certainly, consolekit to be installed and. xinitrc with "startxfce4 --with-ck-launch" I don't have an opportunity to try myself, as I dumped Xfce a quarter ago in favour of Openbox and then dwm, but the shenanigans I'm sending were sent by me

Re: [DNG] suspend

No improvement. On 04/12/2016 01:32 AM, Mitt Green wrote: > Boruch Baum wrote:‎ > >> I don't yet have a working solution for 'switch-users', >> 'shutdown', or 'restart'. > > Try these: > create /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/‎consolekit.pkla and with the > content: > > -- >

Re: [DNG] suspend

On 04/12/2016 01:32 AM, Mitt Green wrote: > Boruch Baum wrote:‎ > >> I don't yet have a working solution for 'switch-users', >> 'shutdown', or 'restart'. > > Try these: Thanks, Mitt. I had tried those earlier (along with the parallel actions ending with "-multiple-users", to no avail. However, I

Re: [DNG] suspend

On 04/12/2016 01:36 AM, Go Linux wrote: > On Mon, 4/11/16, Boruch Baum wrote: > On 04/11/2016 09:40 PM, Go Linux wrote: On Mon, 4/11/16, Boruch Baum wrote: Upon adding a GUI on top of a pre-existing cli-only install of devuan-alpha-4, the

Re: [DNG] Raspberry Pi 2 image

On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 09:26:23PM +0100, Antonio Trkdz.tab wrote: > Dear All, > > can some of you be so kind to point out in a clear form (and possibly link > it to uname outputs) the architectures needed by each raspberry version, > namely 1,2 and 3? > Thank you in advance! rpi0 and rpi1 are

[DNG] Ah, the joys of debugging SystemD

I thought having a "big binary blob" wasn't supposed to be a problem ;-) http://lists.xen.org/archives/html/xen-users/2016-04/msg00031.html > [Xen-users] Debian 8.4, EFI, and systemd = Tricky > ... > My problem is that it hangs when trying so init systemd on dom0 > ... > systemd is new to me. I

Re: [DNG] suspend

On 04/12/2016 02:27 AM, Jaromil wrote: > > I have created an issue to keep track of the ongoing research > > https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/policykit-1/issues/5 > > thanks! You're welcome. GoLinux's response may indicate that my problem is NOT due to polkit. I'll explain in my response

Re: [DNG] suspend

I have created an issue to keep track of the ongoing research https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/policykit-1/issues/5 thanks! please consider contributing this sort of issues to gitlab issues as it really helps organizing tasks for developers. Debating in email is fine, but then someone