Re: [DNG] OpenRC and Devuan

> The current init system is old. Ancient. > We should all agree on it. Devuan is looking > for a new init system that is not systemd and my > personal choice for this task from now on is > Gentoo's OpenRC. ‎ Unix is old. Ancient. We should all agree on it. Devuan is looking for a new base system t

Re: [DNG] OpenRC and Devuan

I vote for init to be default for at least few years. Devuan might consider switching to something else few years after wheezy lts will be dead. Meantime, all other init systems should be optional in Devuan. -- Regards Piotr On 5/3/16, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 2 May 2016 21:05:18 -0400 > Hen

Re: [DNG] KDE plasma in devuan testing.

Hi Antonio: On 05/02/2016 10:16 PM, "Antonio Trkdz.tab" wrote: I have fiddled a bit with a virtual machine running ascii to try to install kde plasma desktop[kde5].(please, fellows minimalists refrain to insult meI love lean systems too) and from what I understood libpam is preventing

[DNG] Debian Wheezy LTS until 2018

[image: Debian] The Debian project has announced that regular security support for Debian 7 "Wheezy" has reached its end. For people who wish to continue running Debian Wheezy, this version of Debian will be maintained by the Debian L

Re: [DNG] OpenRC and Devuan

On Mon, 2 May 2016 21:05:18 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > Is there a summary of some sort explaining the various init systems, > how they're put together, how they work, and especially the salient > points on which they differ? I've tried. See http://troubleshooters.com/linux/init/features_and_b

Re: [DNG] OpenRC and Devuan

On Tue, 3 May 2016 01:19:40 +0200 parazyd wrote: > The current init system is old. Ancient. We should all agree on it. > Devuan is looking for a new init system that is not systemd and my > personal choice for this task from now on is Gentoo's OpenRC. I'd love to see OpenRC as an option. I'd hat

[DNG] Could not resolve 'mirror.cc.columbia.edu'

I've been having trouble installing beta due to packages not downloading. This was with the netinstall, the CD and the DVD. Tonight, I couldn't do a debootstrap install because some packages wouldn't download. Also can't do update/upgrade of existing installation for same reason. This error has co

Re: [DNG] OpenRC and Devuan

Original Message From: Daniel Reurich Sent: 3 May 2016 1:54:36 PM NZST To: parazyd Subject: Re: [DNG] OpenRC and Devuan On 3 May 2016 11:19:40 AM NZST, parazyd wrote: >The current init system is old. Ancient. We should all agree on it. Sure but it just works. >Devuan is

Re: [DNG] OpenRC and Devuan

On 03/05/16 07:19, parazyd wrote: The current init system is old. Ancient. We should all agree on it. Devuan is looking for a new init system that is not systemd and my personal choice for this task from now on is Gentoo's OpenRC. Without getting specific, I just want to flag this as the sor

Re: [DNG] OpenRC and Devuan

On 2016-05-03 01:19, parazyd wrote: > The current init system is old. Ancient. We should all agree on it. > Devuan is looking for a new init system that is not systemd and my > personal choice for this task from now on is Gentoo's OpenRC. > ... I use a version of Manjaro linux built for openRC, and

Re: [DNG] OpenRC and Devuan

On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 01:19:40AM +0200, parazyd wrote: > The current init system is old. Ancient. We should all agree on it. > Devuan is looking for a new init system that is not systemd and my > personal choice for this task from now on is Gentoo's OpenRC. > > In Debian, years ago, effort was m

[DNG] OpenRC and Devuan

The current init system is old. Ancient. We should all agree on it. Devuan is looking for a new init system that is not systemd and my personal choice for this task from now on is Gentoo's OpenRC. In Debian, years ago, effort was made to get OpenRC running. Utter fail. The developers kept the old

Re: [DNG] network-manager depends on libpam-systemd

On 02/05/16 17:41, Dragan FOSS wrote: > On 05/01/2016 10:20 PM, Daniel Reurich wrote: >> I need this before migrating my wheezy >> workstation to Devuan Jessie. So it is urgently needed. > > > Network manager without systemd dependencies :) > http://mirror.org.rs/trios/mia/pool/main/n/ > But wh

Re: [DNG] Files .udeb

On 05/02/2016 10:16 PM, Stephanie Daugherty wrote: what are the .udeb files? The .udeb *packages* are a kind of packages focused to the installer of the operating system... The quality control of those packages is less strick in comparison with the .deb *packages* Cheers, Aitor. _

[DNG] linux-libre-4.3.5-1

Hi, I uploaded the kernel linux-libre-4.3.5-1, built for devuan jessie: http://gnuinos.org/linux-libre/pool/main/l/linux/ Cheers, Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] KDE plasma in devuan testing.

Dear All, I have fiddled a bit with a virtual machine running ascii to try to install kde plasma desktop[kde5].(please, fellows minimalists refrain to insult meI love lean systems too) and from what I understood libpam is preventing the thing from happening (correct me if I am wrong). I wo

Re: [DNG] Files .udeb

udeb files (aka micro-deb) are stripped down packages only used in building the installer and loading installer components into memory via a network connection - they are explicitly intended for tightly constrained environments such as the installation environment and embedded systems, and not mean

Re: [DNG] My ISP is blocking devuan.org

Robert Storey writes: This problem has been going on for four days, and then suddenly about an hour ago, it magically resolved itself. I can access devuan.org just fine now. ns200.anycast.net sounds like an anycast DNS server, which I suspect doesn't tell you much...Pretend that you have a do

Re: [DNG] Sparse thoughts

> > Devuan is not "against something", but "towards something else". +1000 On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 4:25 AM, KatolaZ wrote: > Dear fellow Devuanists, > > I just wanted to share with the list a few sparse thoughts, resulting > from the events of the last few days. You should read a clear "IMHO" >

[DNG] supersized torrent

If I wasn't so befuddled with that devuan.org blocking issue by my ISP, I would have mentioned this earlier. There was the following post on Distrowatch, and my reply (as user "Paraquat"): 27 • @24 Devuan (by Paraquat on 2016-05-02 15:37:11 GMT from Asia) >24 • Devuan (by Napoli Bona > on 2016-05-

Re: [DNG] My ISP is blocking devuan.org

Whoops, right after I sent my message, I see the post from BohwaZ > Same problem here in Australia, ISP is Optus. Haven't been working > since the new website/beta. > > The problem is with your provider routing apparently: Ah, so it's NOT only Chunghwa Telecom. About that "systemd bomb"...who kno

Re: [DNG] My ISP is blocking devuan.org

Thanks to all those who made suggestions on how to deal with this issue. I have a few things to report which perhaps some of you will find interesting. First, we have 3 major (and a couple of minor) mobile service providers in Taiwan: Chunghwa Telecom (which also provides fixed line), Taiwan Mobil

[DNG] Files .udeb

what are the .udeb files? correcting error translating... I'm trying to create a local repository, but I do not download the files .udeb as you could download these files? #!/bin/sh ARQUITECTURA=i386,amd64 METODO=http RAMA=jessie HOST=packages.devuan.org DIR_MIRROR=/mnt/datos/sistemas/linux/

[DNG] Files .udeb

what are the .udeb files? I'm trying to create a local repository, but I do not download the files .udeb as podr'ia also download these files? #!/bin/sh ARQUITECTURA=i386 METODO=http RAMA=jessie HOST=packages.devuan.org DIR_MIRROR=/mnt/datos/sistemas/linux/devuan/merged SECCIONES=main,contrib,

Re: [DNG] Blackbox: was: For all you automounter programmers

- Original Message - > From: "Steve Litt" > Does Blackbox allow you to designate a tiny strip of the screen to be > desktop-only so you can click on it? Also, does Blackbox enable you to > hotkey not only blackbox functions, but also random programs on your > hard disk? Third, does Blackb

Re: [DNG] For all you automounter programmers

I rewrote the usbpmount script so that it handles sd/mmc and cd/dvd devices as well as usb. Get usbpmount3.tar.gz from https://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/testing These are standalone scripts. None of the notification stuff is included, but they could be made to work with it. usbpmoun

Re: [DNG] cloud

By that metric, using the phrase "cloud-init" is at least descriptive, and not marketing buzzword driven. Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Droid On May 2, 2016 4:07 AM, hellekin wrote: On 05/01/2016 08:17 PM, dan pridgeon wrote: > Cirrus > > From: Hughe Chung > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Sent:

Re: [DNG] My ISP is blocking devuan.org

Same problem here in Australia, ISP is Optus. Haven't been working since the new website/beta. The problem is with your provider routing apparently: % dig devuan.org @ns200.anycast.me. dig: couldn't get address for 'ns200.anycast.me.': not found $ ping 46.105.207.200 PING 46.105.207.200 (46.105.

Re: [DNG] Devuan Security Repo (was Re: invalid security certificate)

helle...@dyne.org writes: auto.mirrors does not exist: only auto.mirror does. Unknown names point to www.devuan.org. Auto.mirrors exists as of yesterday. It was on the devuan home page due to a typo. Nextime made the typo work, then fixed the typo. Arnt _

Re: [DNG] cloud

On 05/01/2016 08:17 PM, dan pridgeon wrote: > Cirrus > > From: Hughe Chung > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 8:33 PM > Subject: Re: [DNG] cloud > > > How about cloudnine? > As much as I like Bucky Fuller, the goal is not to legitimize the "cloud" term, but

Re: [DNG] Devuan Security Repo (was Re: invalid security certificate)

On 04/30/2016 08:25 PM, Don Wright wrote: > > I resolve them as: > auto.mirror.devuan.org. 300 IN CNAME packages.devuan.org. > packages.devuan.org.1800IN A 46.105.191.77 > > auto.mirrors.devuan.org. 300IN CNAME www.devuan.org. > www.devuan.org. 600

Re: [DNG] My ISP is blocking devuan.org

Stephanie Daugherty wrote: > > Check for possible accidental causes - routing issues, PMTU blackholes, and > other oddities that could be innocent mistakes - never assume malice when > stupidity will do. Hi Stephanie, and thanks for the reply. It may well be an innocent mistake on someone's part,