Re: [DNG] Supervision scripts (was Re: OpenRC and Devuan)

2016-05-05 Thread John Morris
On Wed, 2016-05-04 at 21:41 +0100, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: > Malloc() is very simple: You ask for memory and get it. The negative > side > of that simplicity is that if you're out of memory (and that happens > occasionally if a server is run close to capacity) then processes die > and/or become

Re: [DNG] Why I was away.

2016-05-05 Thread Peter Olson
> On May 5, 2016 at 12:53 PM Edward Bartolo wrote: [...] > Some may think I am insane, but sometimes even the company of a four > legged friend can be beneficial. > > Edward And it runs another OS which is free of systemd :-) Peter Olson

[DNG] Insolence from a twisted character?

2016-05-05 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi, "This is all warm and fuzzy but very OT. Please take your "therapy" off-list. Or better yet, get comfortable enough with yourself that a four-legged crutch isn't necessary to give meaning to your existence." A shameful, arrogant, insolent and unwarranted reply. Golinux, you pride yourself

Re: [DNG] Why I was away.

2016-05-05 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi, "This is all warm and fuzzy but very OT. Please take your "therapy" off-list. Or better yet, get comfortable enough with yourself that a four-legged crutch isn't necessary to give meaning to your existence." A shameful, arrogant, insolent and unwarranted reply. Golinux, you pride yourself

Re: [DNG] nfs mounts in fstab

2016-05-05 Thread David Kuehling
> "Steven" == Steven W Scott writes: > FYI, If anybody is having trouble getting nfs mounts in fstab to work, > have a look at /etc/network/interfaces and make sure your interface is > defined there - I've been trying to figure out why mine wasn't working > for the past

Re: [DNG] Debian is dropping support for i586. Are we?

2016-05-05 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 06:22:17PM -0500, Vince Mulhollon wrote: > It'll hit the embedded world pretty hard. Sane embedded doesn't run x86. Heck, even m68k is better than x86 there... > Today you can buy a brand new soekris box that only runs i586. Brand > new off the shelf, today. My 6 or 7

[DNG] Devuan installer

2016-05-05 Thread Ozi Traveller
Hi Does the Devuan graphical installer still support a banner across the top of the screen? Or is this an issue with beta or coming from debian? I'm using live-build wth jessie. Cheers Ozi ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Debian is dropping support for i586. Are we?

2016-05-05 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 06:57:22PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > Not worth the effort, I'd say. Jessie still has four years of > > security support (I don't think Devuan has the manpower to provide > > security support for 40k+ packages alone after Debian ends it), and > > if you'd _still_ run

Re: [DNG] Debian is dropping support for i586. Are we?

2016-05-05 Thread Vince Mulhollon
It'll hit the embedded world pretty hard. Today you can buy a brand new soekris box that only runs i586. Brand new off the shelf, today. My 6 or 7 year old one is running right now as an asterisk server at home. Draws about 5 watts. Its not exactly the newest piece of hardware they sell but

Re: [DNG] Debian is dropping support for i586. Are we?

2016-05-05 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 6 May 2016 00:17:31 +0200 Adam Borowski wrote: > On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 05:15:56PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > Debian is dropping suppoort for i586. It seems to mean tht the > > i386 platform will no longer run on 586 processors, as gcc starts > > to generate

Re: [DNG] Debian is dropping support for i586. Are we?

2016-05-05 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 05:15:56PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Debian is dropping suppoort for i586. It seems to mean tht the i386 > platform will no longer run on 586 processors, as gcc starts to generate > instructions that are incalid there. [...] > I don't know if we need to watch out for

Re: [DNG] Why I was away.

2016-05-05 Thread Go Linux
This is all warm and fuzzy but very OT. Please take your "therapy" off-list. Or better yet, get comfortable enough with yourself that a four-legged crutch isn't necessary to give meaning to your existence. golinux ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] Why I was away.

2016-05-05 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 06:53:30PM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi, > > Init freedom enthusiasts. About a month ago I adopted a puppy which > took most of my free time as it was still too young. Initially, I had > to feed it every 3 hours day and night with a syringe with the needle > removed.

[DNG] Debian is dropping support for i586. Are we?

2016-05-05 Thread Hendrik Boom
Debian is dropping suppoort for i586. It seems to mean tht the i386 platform will no longer run on 586 processors, as gcc starts to generate instructions that are incalid there. Currently this seems to be the case in sid, but it will probably propagate through testing. People with only

Re: [DNG] OT: Why I was away.

2016-05-05 Thread Simon Hobson
Edward Bartolo wrote: > Some may think I am insane, but sometimes even the company of a four > legged friend can be beneficial. Not at all, ours is just coming up to 2 year old now. It's fairly widely accepted that pets can be very therapeutic.

Re: [DNG] Supervision scripts

2016-05-05 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Hendrik Boom writes: > On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 07:49:04AM +0100, Simon Hobson wrote: >> Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> >> > But leaving these two general remarks aside, I don't quite understand >> > what you wanted to express. >> >> That

Re: [DNG] Supervision scripts

2016-05-05 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 07:49:04AM +0100, Simon Hobson wrote: > Rainer Weikusat wrote: > > > But leaving these two general remarks aside, I don't quite understand > > what you wanted to express. > > That "freedom of choice" is very important - as demonstrated by

[DNG] CORRECTION to purpy desktop theme

2016-05-05 Thread Go Linux
I just realized (with horror!) that the files in git for the purpy theme are incomplete and inaccurate. The correct version can be downloaded from here: http://www.saynotogmos.org/ss/Clearlooks-Phenix-purpy.zip If I could figure out how to use git I would upload them myself but alas I am at

[DNG] Why I was away.

2016-05-05 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi, Init freedom enthusiasts. About a month ago I adopted a puppy which took most of my free time as it was still too young. Initially, I had to feed it every 3 hours day and night with a syringe with the needle removed. As the puppy becomes more independent, hopefully, I will continue to

Re: [DNG] Supervision scripts

2016-05-05 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 05/05/2016 16:11, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : >I would not like to, for example, install apache and mod php and have >it restart after it has crashed due to a crappy PHP application. I am >of the opinion that is a big security risk. But that's exactly what you get with apache (and mod_php)

Re: [DNG] Supervision scripts

2016-05-05 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Simon Walter writes: [...] > On 05/05/2016 05:45 AM, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> It greatly reduces the number of "low-quality" (or rather, "no quality") >> bug reports I receive as I don't (usually) get frantic phone calls at >> 3am UK time because a server in Texas terminated

Re: [DNG] Supervision scripts (was Re: OpenRC and Devuan)

2016-05-05 Thread Simon Walter
On 05/05/2016 03:18 AM, Stephanie Daugherty wrote: Process supervision is something I'm very opinionated about. In a number of high availability production environments, its a necessary evil. However, it should *never* be an out of the box default for any network-exposed service, Service

Re: [DNG] Supervision scripts

2016-05-05 Thread Simon Hobson
Rainer Weikusat wrote: > But leaving these two general remarks aside, I don't quite understand > what you wanted to express. That "freedom of choice" is very important - as demonstrated by two posts setting out the reason why (for the poster's situation) the